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martytv
01-06-2013, 04:18 PM
Hi,

I found the following post in the forum

ForumTV Forum Supported CODEC overview for ALL models (TV, HTS, and Blu-ray)
http://www.supportforum.philips.com/en/showthread.php?1067-Supported-CODEC-overview-for-ALL-models-(TV-HTS-and-Blu-ray)

which details the containers, video and audio codecs, as well as maximum bitrates supported by Philips TVs up to 2010 and Blu Ray players up to 2011.

Where can I find a detailed list of supported containers, codecs and bitrates for 2012 TVs?

On a side note, I have .MKV file with High@4.1 profile, 11.4 Mbits/sec, the TV doesn't want to play it. The DSL box can, though. I can live with that, but I would like to know the exact player specifications for my TV (42pfl6067) - this would help.

Many thanks in advance!

MF

Manuel
01-06-2013, 06:30 PM
It's better if you copy all data with mediainfo.
If there is a DTS audio track, tv don't play that file (if is first audio track?).
If you search on a user manual, you find a codec list.
http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?slg=en&scy=de&ctn=42PFL6067K/12

http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en

lite version
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/MediaInfo-Lite/1183386892/1

martytv
01-06-2013, 06:38 PM
The following file doesn't work (the player is stuck, the TV still is responsive, but I unable to play any other file afterwards or watch TV - I have to restart the TV).

Here is the output of mediainfo

Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 7.53 GiB
Duration : 1h 34mn
Overall bit rate : 11.4 Mbps
Movie name : MY_VIDEO_NAME
Encoded date : UTC 2012-12-06 18:00:16
Writing application : mkvmerge v5.8.0 ('No Sleep / Pillow') built on Sep 2 2012 15:37:04
Writing library : libebml v1.2.3 + libmatroska v1.3.0

Video
ID : 3
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 34mn
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Default : No
Forced : No
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio #1
ID : 1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 34mn
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Title : English - AC3
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio #2
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 34mn
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Title : Danish - AC3
Language : Danish
Default : No
Forced : No

martytv
01-06-2013, 06:42 PM
The following file does work (and it does contain a DTS stream)

I tried to highlight the differences in bold characters (might have missed one...?)

Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 6.75 GiB
Duration : 2h 34mn
Overall bit rate : 6 260 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-12-25 18:54:34
Writing application : mkvmerge v5.8.0 ('No Sleep / Pillow') built on Oct 10 2012 22:05:47
Writing library : libebml v1.2.3 + libmatroska v1.3.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Muxing mode : Header stripping
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 34mn
Bit rate : 4 000 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 036 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 1.853
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.084
Stream size : 4.30 GiB (64%)
Writing library : x264 core 120
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.20 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=4000 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Muxing mode : Header stripping
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 34mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.63 GiB (24%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : Header stripping
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 34mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 707 MiB (10%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Htep
01-06-2013, 07:17 PM
I'm interested in... I follow...

Manuel
01-06-2013, 08:58 PM
which media you are using to play de file? pen USB? HDD?
I see no reason to second video not work.
Wait for a Philipīs comment.......
This video play fine on my 42pdl7906, 2011 series.

Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 8.46 GiB
Duration : 1h 54mn
Overall bit rate : 10.6 Mbps
Movie name : I.Robot.2004.1080p.Bluray.x264.DTS-DEFiNiTE
Encoded date : UTC 2012-09-12 19:45:09
Writing application : mkvmerge v5.8.0 ('No Sleep / Pillow') built on Sep 2 2012 15:37:04
Writing library : libebml v1.2.3 + libmatroska v1.3.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Muxing mode : Header stripping
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 54mn
Bit rate : 8 407 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 816 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.224
Stream size : 6.57 GiB (78%)
Title : I, Robot
Writing library : x264 core 58 svn-736M
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=8407 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=1.00 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.4:10.0
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : Header stripping
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 54mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 525 MiB (6%)
Title : Eng AC3
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : Header stripping
Codec ID : A_DTS

martytv
01-07-2013, 09:34 AM
Got it to work without reencoding the file, just demuxing/remuxing.

Demuxed the video and audio tracks.
Remuxed the mkv with one audio track (just because I only need one - the player supports multiple audio tracks just fine apparently) making sure the following is true:

- video track first, before the audio track
- I set "Default: true" for the video track, didn't bother to do it for the audio track

I.e. I used the second method described here:

http://www.fanhow.com/knowhow:Fix_MKV_Video_Files_27725469

When you remux, when you add the video track at the beginning, you get a message box saying you must specify manually the frame rate. I did it, and provided the original frame rate value given by mediainfo. I also specified the original Display size (resolution).