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christopher
04-06-2011, 11:54 AM
Read quite a lot of streaming issues within the blue ray forum. If u have to rate the DLNA experience, how you gonna rate that?

Toengel
04-06-2011, 12:18 PM
Hi,

when you rate, please state your DLNA server software which you are using. DLNA experience depends often on the used DLNA server software.

Toengel@Alex

smart
04-06-2011, 01:35 PM
Is 0 good or bad?

In general, DLNA is working on my side. But there are some items which could be better. Showing cover images and tags.

kath
04-06-2011, 01:42 PM
Ok I will rate it a 6. It works however not all the files are shown when using DLNA.

Andreas
04-13-2011, 01:08 PM
For MKVs and most other formats it works OK with my BDP8000. I cannot change chapter or jumt to time but ff/rw works (albeit only up to 4x).
For .avi it plays but freezes every now and then. That does not happen with my older Netgear media player.

I have no complaints about music, photos and film format support, only the DLNA implentation of .avi, that could be a lot better. The unit plays .avi perfectly when I use a USB HDD, so it is not a matter of encoder/file problems.

My NAS runs TwonkyMedia Server, but I do not remember what version. It is DLNA 1.5 certified, but that really says nothing as such a certificate does not state for exactly what formats it can handle (same goes for the BDP/NetTV range).

rollufje
06-15-2011, 08:52 PM
BDP 5180

I would rate it 5 out of 10

I'm trying to get rid of hard drives lying around. So working with a lacie networkspace2 NAS with twonky server.
+ image quality
+ FF and sometimes RW
- No resume / jump time
- FF too slow, need it a lot because of the lack of resume
- sometimes a video hangs every minute for +/- 5 seconds (when using the player from my tv it doesn''t happen)

Shurakai
06-20-2011, 04:27 PM
BDP5180/12

Streaming from a IOMEGA Home Media Network Drive Cloud Edition with Twonky v5: rate 2 ot of 10
-due to too slow FF/RW (only 4x)
-no chapters in MKV supported
-no time-search supported
-no Vobsubs in MKVs supported, only SRT
-bad support for SRT-formatting (italic/bold)
-constant freezes when streaming MKVs and AVIs (XVID/DIVX)
-supports interlaced MKVs - ok

Streaming from my PC via TVERSITY: rate 5 out of 10
-due to constant freezes when streaming MKVs and AVIs (XVID/DIVX)
-no Vobsubs in MKVs supported, only SRT
-bad support for SRT-formatting (italic/bold)
- FF/RW with 32x - ok
-chapters support - ok
-time-search - ok
-supports interlaced MKVs - ok

The freezes are no network-issue :rolleyes: since I've no freezes when I stream to my Philips TV. Sadly the TV does not support SRT-subtitles or FF/RW in any way.

Zwartij
07-27-2011, 04:50 PM
Streaming goes well, besides ... files.mkv don't show in the video nor in the folder list.
Using Windows Mediastreamer for Windows7 and BDP5180.

Until it is fixed with an update I rate the streaming capabillities with a 6.

kwinnie
07-28-2011, 01:44 AM
Hi again Zwartij,

So basically you mean the mkv files cannot be streamed?

Zwartij
07-28-2011, 06:44 PM
Hi again Zwartij,

So basically you mean the mkv files cannot be streamed?Yepp. They are invisible on my home network (so I can't stream:) ). From USB they work perfectly. SW v1.50 and (my hope!) upgraded to v1.54 gave the same result. Friend of my with a Synology NAS tried to stream my example .mkv at his home with the same bdp5180/12 SWv1.50. There it showed progress on the bdp display, but the screen stayed tuned on blue screen, showing nothing.

rollufje
07-28-2011, 08:01 PM
@zwartij: last week I tried to stream MKV from my notebook with WMP11. On my bdp8150 I got empty folders. My TV (pfl8605) showed files with crosses.

When I stream the same from my NAS (twonkyserver 4 (or 5... can't remember which one..)) it works on both my br player and TV.

So I googled, and found the following:
http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=2473

it seems WMP doesn't stream MKV, indepedent of the codecs you have installed on your machine.

kwinnie
07-29-2011, 01:50 AM
Dear zwartij & rollufje,

Just a bit of re-cap, if i remember correctly zwartji you are using bdp3200 and then your friend has a bdp5180, and rollufje, you have a bdp8150 (which in Philips website I cannot quite find this product.)

So what I think is similar to that of rollufje, it is the MKV cannot be decoded using WMP/ Windows mediastreamer in your PC. And through streaming, the player won't process the files, unlike using USB. That's why it cannot be played... Guess we'll have to find some suitable streamer...

kwinnie
07-29-2011, 02:10 AM
With regard to my previous post, hence I don't think it's because the Philips devices are faulty, it's more on the software we used.

This is what I have googled: http://www.ehow.com/how_6727626_stream-mkv-files.html

Shall we try?

rollufje
07-29-2011, 08:02 AM
Sorry, that was a type-o. I meant the 5180...

rollufje
07-29-2011, 08:39 AM
With regard to my previous post, hence I don't think it's because the Philips devices are faulty, it's more on the software we used.

This is what I have googled: http://www.ehow.com/how_6727626_stream-mkv-files.html

Shall we try?

I read the how-to, it looks to me this doesn't cover streaming through DLNA. only opening a file (locally or through network).

The following is quite clear:
http://homehdmediaplayer.com/?p=332

So the options are (feel free to join in...):
1. use another DLNA source
2. recode everything to an DLNA accepted format

My laCie networkspace2 does the job by the way
On my BDP5180 with slow forwarding, no RW and no skipping in time and freezes of 30 seconds...
On my TV pfl8605 no freezes, but also no FF / RW and no skipping in time...

So when you got MKV working I'm not sure you'll be satisfied with the result....

Zwartij
07-29-2011, 05:24 PM
Dear zwartij & rollufje,

Just a bit of re-cap, if i remember correctly zwartji you are using bdp3200 and then your friend has a bdp5180, and rollufje, you have a bdp8150 (which in Philips website I cannot quite find this product.)

So what I think is similar to that of rollufje, it is the MKV cannot be decoded using WMP/ Windows mediastreamer in your PC. And through streaming, the player won't process the files, unlike using USB. That's why it cannot be played... Guess we'll have to find some suitable streamer...O o typo blurs. In this 5180 topic. To wrap up correctly.
Zwartij has a 5180/12 and tried to stream from pc with Windows7 Mediastreamer. .mkv is not showing
Friend has also a 5180/12 trying from Synology NAS. .mkv shows in the folder but doesn't show on the screen
(we used the same .mkv)
Friend has also a Samsung BDP and from the same Synology NAS ... it works perfectly together:confused:

Zwartij
08-19-2011, 07:21 PM
Installed minidlna as dlna streaming service on my pc with linux and guess what happened? .mkv plays nice and flawless!
So WMP, although included the .mkv add-on, fails. Not my bdp5180.

So I rate my Philips with an eight.
What are the missing points? The elementary browser used for video and folder look up.
So still room for improvement, always good for the developers to stretch the features. :)

Toengel
08-20-2011, 10:23 AM
Hi,

can you please post a link to the software homepage?

Toengel@Alex (Toengel@Alex)

Zwartij
08-20-2011, 05:08 PM
http://sourceforge.net/projects/minidlna/. Google on 'minidlna' guides you to lot of information and howto. My linux distribution MandrivaLinux had an rpm package ready to roll. :cool:

mboesch
08-31-2011, 09:44 PM
HTS9221 streaming from Turbostation 239 Pro II using Twonky works fine in general for all formats so far: AVI,MPG,MP4,MKV
I only experienced one issue so far, described here:
http://www.supportforum.philips.com/en/showthread.php?2314-HTS9221-MKV-Playback-issue

So it seems, that the streaming ist at least starting fine - and on different MKV-files I experienced similar issues. Starting ok and after approx 20-30 min starting of jerking. Still trying to find out if it is the Codec, the individual files or the player.

rollufje
09-01-2011, 07:49 AM
@mboesch: I think my bdp5180 has the same MKV issues (I don't know about other formats). Indeed, after 20-30 minutes the video stops every minute for about 10-15 seconds.

The same files work without problems on my tv (8605).

I hope the 5180 gets an update for this in the near future.

Shurakai
09-01-2011, 09:12 AM
Hi mboesch,

which version of Twonky is running on your QNAP ? Have you tried streaming via the PS3 Media Server available for your device as QPKG?
The jerking you report happens with some AVIs and some MKVs on my BDP5180/12 as well when I stream the movies via Twonky from my Iomega NAS. But I never had a problem when I streamed the files with Tveristy from my computer.
2 days ago I bought a new router which also can act as mediaserver for stuff on connected USB devices (Netgear WDNR3700) and quess what....no problems when streaming AVIs and MKVs. No Jerking, no freezing, even for 1080p material, FF and RW work with 32x speed. Chapters and subtitles also work fine.
Even my Philips TV (42PFL7655K02) is suddenly able to FF and RW streamed media from the router with a speed of at least 4x or 8x (hard to say, since the speed is not displayed) but feels like 8x. FF and RW has not been possible until now for streamed media on this device.

There seems to be a big compatibility issue between Twonky (especially older versions) and Philips devices. You can try to update the Twonky version on you NAS to 6.0.34, since QNAP offers a very good support for their devices,

http://forum.qnap.com/viewforum.php?f=213

or you can try to use a differnt Media Server for your NAS for example PS3 Media Server:

http://forum.qnap.com/viewforum.php?f=212

There are also other Media Server applications available for QNAP devices, but i quess their installation is not as easy as with a QPKG-Package.

mboesch
09-01-2011, 08:15 PM
@Shurakai:
thanks for your reply!
I currently use Twonky 6.0.33. I will check the udpate and yes, I have seen that there is now a whole bunch of other DLNA Servers available as QPKG. Will check them out too.

gaurav71189
09-07-2011, 03:59 AM
I would give it a 6.
I own a BDP7500B2/51. It is not possible to control what's on the player from the PC. I would sometimes prefer that instead of using the remote control to browse the PC. I want to be able to use the "Play to" feature in Windows Media Player 12 along with this player. A firmware update which enables this would be greatly useful.

HSPalm
04-29-2013, 02:59 PM
I give it a 3. It's hard not to rate the coolness of the actual DLNA feature, so I'm rating only Phillips' implementation.

First of all it doesn't display any images when selected from the TVs interface, only when sent from devce. Secondly it's won't starting streaming a video which isn't fully downloaded yet. And third there are no support for subtitles. But once the movie is on it's at least working....

47PFL6907T
DLNA servers are tablets, PCs but most of all my asus wireless router.

MidnightManiac
07-15-2013, 11:20 AM
I'd give it 3 or 4. Below average.

Compare that to my Sony DLNA experience (same PC, same media etc.) just different renderer/TV, which I'd rate 9 - close to perfect.

Main reasons for low score:

No MP4 support
No subtitle support
Poor mkv support
No preview/thumbnails
Shaky wifi/failure to detect server


I wish some (if not all) of those issues could be fixed. But frankly seeing the same things mentioned in year old posts doesn't give me much hope...