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gr7605
09-14-2011, 07:16 AM
Hi,

I saw that the new Philips 7606 TVs of 2011 now have a USB recording facilitiy, i.e. they can record on an attached USB device.

Can I expect that also the 2010 series 7605 TVs will get this feature via a firmware update?
I have a 37PFL7605H/12 and would be glad to also receive this feature.

Does anybody have information on this?

Regards

Toengel
09-14-2011, 07:19 AM
Hi,

this is a 2011 only feature and you won't get this via firmware update for your TV...

Toengel@Alex

a_Tom
09-14-2011, 07:21 AM
recording or better, have this feature is not only a matter of updating the firmware, its also related to the hardware and only the 2k11 (xxpflxxx6) tvs does have those capabilities

smart
09-15-2011, 10:42 AM
Just for more confusion:
http://www.supportforum.philips.com/en/showthread.php?2340-Smart-TV

SmartTV was announced for all connected TVs. There is recording in the links of the thread mentioned as a feature of SmartTV.
Nevertheless, I do not believe that recording will be added to older TVs. Many other members in the forum think the same, also they would like to get that new feature.
But there is no clear statement, that recording is exempted from the SmartTV update.

Toengel
09-15-2011, 10:54 AM
Hi,

Smart TV = Control, Program, Simply Share and Net TV... but not all TV series will have all parts of the four pillars...

Toengel@Alex

Philips - Thomas
09-15-2011, 11:10 AM
Hi

to bring some clarifications:

Smart TV is not a single feature but a combination of different things.
One of them is USB Recording but there is also Net TV itself, new Net TV Interface etc.

I think all of you are aware that with an update we will not be able to change the hardware in the devices.
So if there is f.e. an older TV or Blu-ray Player which is by hardware not able to record, it will not be after the Smart TV update.

Regards
Thomas

Toengel
09-15-2011, 11:16 AM
Hi,

so what does bring the new "Smart TV Update"? A new HOME menu? or a new Net TV portal?

Toengel@Alex

Philips - Thomas
09-15-2011, 11:27 AM
Hi,

Smart TV brings a lot of things and like i wrote and as you already mentioned yourself, different things to different devices. ;)
What exactly will come and how it will look like on the different devices will be shown, when its available ;).
So lets be patient and wait for the things to come.

Regards
Thomas

Toengel
09-15-2011, 11:31 AM
Hi,

Ok - now I'm much more excited... ;-)

Toengel@Alex

Freddy
09-15-2011, 12:12 PM
Smart TV brings a lot of things and like i wrote and as you already mentioned yourself, different things to different devices. ;)
What exactly will come and how it will look like on the different devices will be shown, when its available ;).
Just a small suggestion... :p Don't show features on devices that, in fact, will never have them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnWtfytDmB8
Notice the pausing and recording on a 9705!?... :rolleyes:

theflyer1972
09-15-2011, 12:15 PM
Hi,

So lets be patient and wait for the things to come.

Regards
Thomas

for many months, were released only bug fix, when you do a firmware version with improvements?
is at least planned?
in this forum you can find many suggestion for improvements
best regard

a_Tom
09-15-2011, 12:18 PM
Just a small suggestion... :p Don't show features on devices that, in fact, will never have them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnWtfytDmB8
Notice the pausing and recording on a 9705!?... :rolleyes:

and next time they do a PROMOTION! Video they should use a 42" 3xxx Series?
and than your question would be why there are all the features in the low end devices but not on high end?
This is marketing, for sure they introduce best features on best devices even if they are not available on that specific model....

smart
09-15-2011, 12:42 PM
... I think all of you are aware that with an Update we will not be able to change the hardware in the devices.
So if there is f.e. an older TV or Blu Ray Player which is by hardware not able to Record, it will not be after the Smart TV Update ...

Thomas, I absolutely agree with you. No one will expect that hardware will be changed or Philips will be able to do magic. But not everybody is able to decide if a feature depends on certain hardware capabilities or not.
If a feature requires hardware changes will be absolutely self-evident for you. I have seen posts here, where it was absolutely self-evident for me, that sth. will require hardware changes.

But basically I just want to point out, that without enough technical knowledge of the insides of modern TVs, a user may misunderstand the message which was sent out.

This newly started thread, asking for recording, shows that there are users which wish to have that feature. Some might think that SmartTV will bring that feature to them, because they read this thread. Then they get it and are very disappointed about this "missing" feature.

Hope that the post is not too long to be read :D

theflyer1972
09-16-2011, 01:15 PM
for many months, were released only bug fix, when you do a firmware version with improvements?
Is at least planned?
In this forum you can find many suggestion for improvements
best regard
....the silence ....

a_Tom
09-16-2011, 01:36 PM
i dont understand you, it has been said already lots of times they never will make any comments about things that might come or wishes might come true...

theflyer1972
09-16-2011, 01:52 PM
i dont understand you, it has been said already lots of times they never will make any comments about things that might come or wishes might come true...

I never asked Philips to tell us what to do ... but only wants to know if there will be

gr7605
09-19-2011, 09:36 PM
Hi

to bring some clarifications:

Smart TV is not a single Feature but a combination of different things.
One of them is USB Recording but there is also NetTV itself, new NetTV Interface etc.

I think all of you are aware that with an Update we will not be able to change the hardware in the devices.
So if there is f.e. an older TV or Blu Ray Player which is by hardware not able to Record, it will not be after the Smart TV Update.

Regards
Thomas

From a user's perspective, the 7605 has a USB device, so the hardware for attaching a harddisk is there.
A receiver component is within the TV, otherwise you could not watch TV.
So (to me as an IT professional) it seems an easy thing, only to be done in software (firmware), to save the TV signal on the harddisk, and that's called recording ;-)
And the EPG is also already built in.
I.e. no hardware change required to implement that.

That's why I think that USB recording could easily be provided in a firmware update, if Philips only wanted - but I doubt that they want...

Regards

Nettle
09-19-2011, 11:08 PM
From a user's perspective,

That's why I think that USB recording could easily be provided in a firmware update, if Philips only wanted - but I doubt that they want...

Regards

Dear gr7605,

this is the point, they don't want at all. The same unsatisfied issue is with the wireless keyboard for NET TV (available only for the 2011 models).

USB driver would be enough to recognize it but....for "misterious" reasons, this is not possible.

What do you think????.....:mad:......you're right!