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Philips - Mark
09-23-2011, 02:54 PM
See this (http://www.techradar.com/news/television/tv/hands-onphilips-46pfl9706h-review-1010265) TECHRADAR review.

Brakius
09-24-2011, 06:48 AM
I had the Philips 46-9705 and bought the 46-9706. This TV has a lot of banding. The screen can not give a normal one colour picture, when you put a white jpg picture on a usb and show it on the 9706, you can see stripes and clouds. Also colours grey, blue etc. When a picture is moving, it is not nice!!! Yesterday my supplier change the television and this one has got even this problem!

At this moment I say the 9706 has really black colours, but it is the worst picture moving quality I ever had.

petasis
09-30-2011, 02:36 PM
What was your previous TV you are comparing to? (Before the 9705).
You note that 9706 has more banding than 9705? The picture quality is worse than 9705?

Brakius
10-01-2011, 07:13 PM
Before 9803.

See this picture:
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The background light is not consequent. On the picture you see a white jpg picture. You see dark/light parts. When a tv picture is moving, I see that it become dark and light. So the quality of the picture is worse than 9705 when it is moving. This is background light banding.

Also Natural Motion makes left and right sides sometimes wrong corrections I think. The sound is not so beautiful as the 9705.

The Ambilight is great, black levels also great, when you look at the TV from left or right sight, the colours are still good and you are not looking into the led lights of the Ambilight. I hope that they can make a app for air play. That will be great I think.

carlosfm
10-17-2011, 04:13 PM
Let's make this clear: LCD is an ancient technology with it's limitations.
It needs backlight for you to see the image.
Backlighting is bad and it gets worse the bigger is the TV screen - it gets difficult to illuminate the center area of the screen with the same intensity as the edges.
With backlighting, the blacks are not real blacks, it's more like a dark grey.
LCD TV manufacturers resort to an all kind of trickery like dynamic backlighting, through software. This is to make blacks seem more... black.
A real black, as in a CRT for instance, is the absence of light. On an OLED display it's similar.
The image quality of LCD TVs has improved immensely in the last years but the limitations are still there, unavoidably.

The OLED display of my old Kodak digital photo camera gave impressive image and deep blacks, from any angle.
I'm waiting for almost 10 years for OLED TVs to be the norm, and at "normal" (LCD) prices.
I had to give up waiting and buy an LCD TV because it seems like I would have to wait another 10 years for OLED.
OLED is so much superior to LCD... I would never pay 4,200 for an LCD TV. :p

petasis
10-17-2011, 05:45 PM
Well, you can see a today's OLED in samsung's phones. I have one, and I am not so sure OLED solve all the problems.

It is not the technology, it is the manufacturer. If the manufactures puts a lot of effort in a product, it will be good no matter its panel technology.

carlosfm
10-17-2011, 08:31 PM
Well, you can see a today's OLED in samsung's phones. I have one, and I am not so sure OLED solve all the problems.

It is not the technology, it is the manufacturer. If the manufactures puts a lot of effort in a product, it will be good no matter its panel technology.

There is no comparison between LCD, which needs backlight even to display the black and OLED, which just needs to turn off the leds. :p
The contrast is much better with OLED.
No software trickery that you can do with LCD can take it even near to OLED.

Just remember this conversation when OLED gets to the TVs and everyone wants one.