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matthias
11-05-2011, 02:26 AM
Strange that noone has commented on that yet - I went through the other threads that mentioned youtube, but didn't find a hint.

The "browse" bar in the youtube app is really good - this is how I imagine surfing youtube with a TV remote! But PLEASE can you make the fonts and the thumbnails larger? The second line is much too small.
Maybe even better would be to use the space above where video plays.

But to the topic: I think that "A..Z keyboard layout" for searching youtube is unfortunately one of the WORST ways to enter text.
It requires a large number of clicks for each key, they are not easy to find (a querty-order would have been slightly better), and because of the delay, I clicked "abort" a few times instead of "space" and had to reenter everything :-(

A cell-phone like input with multiple number presses would be MUCH better. I really like the way how the searching in the ZDF Mediathek works! Not sure if it's Philips who created the youtube app, but PLEASE tell the responsible programmer to update the way of entering text. Something similar to how ZDF Mediathek Search works would be great.

Also, when going back to search, eg. for a second (modified) search, the old text should appear for editing, and not be deleted.

I know, there's USB keyboard support, which is a very nice touch, but to be honest, I will not hook up a USB keyboard just for occasional searching. In my opinion, a good and fluid handling via the TV remote should have the higher priority.

Maybe Philips can create something like a "design guide" for App developers? There, things like minimum font size and how to enter text should be suggested for the developers.

tl;dr:

Allow Text input in the search bar in cellphone-style with multiple key presses
keep search text in field when doing a second search.


Matthias
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Toengel
11-05-2011, 09:32 AM
Hi,

one short question. Do you have a 2011 TV (xxPFLxxx6)? I only want to find out, if you are using the YouTube Leanback or the old YouTube "pre" 2011 version.

You should also take a look at the MyRemote app for iOS and Android. The keyboard input should be much easier with that app.

Toengel@Alex

matthias
11-05-2011, 09:54 AM
Hi,

I have a 2011 version (32PFL7606). (I put this info in my profile, but didn't find a way to make it show along with my posts).

So I guess, thats the Leanback version? (though I actually have to lean forward to be able to see the images and read the text ;-)

Thanks for the hint, but I prefer phones which I don't have to charge every other day and am a very happy Nokia E71 user ;-)

Unfortunately, I didn't find a J2ME / S60 / Python version of MyRemote / Jointspace.

But, while it's cool, I think thats actually not necessary. I'm really really impressed how smooth the input works in the ZDF Mediathek!

Matthias

smart
11-05-2011, 10:29 AM
Sure, I agree.

The fonts are too small to really enjoy it. Just thought only my eyes are too bad ;).

For the cellphone-style input, this works on my side with the TV remote. Pressing a number multiple times gives the letter.
But for that it could be also more user-friendly, if the selected letter from the list (which appears if pressing the number keys) would not just be in a different color (black instead of grey), but in also in a different size. Selected letter should also be enlarged. It would be easier to see from the back of the living room.

From my point of view the cellphone-style input is really enough to enter all texts for TV apps, but the way the UI provides help could be improved. Maybe also something like T9.

Nettle
11-05-2011, 10:31 AM
Hi,

I have a 2011 version (32PFL7606). (I put this info in my profile, but didn't find a way to make it show along with my posts).

Matthias

Hello Matthias, I've put the TV and soundbar models/description in the same form of my city/country (you can see them on the left right now).

In this way the technical infos are always displayed.

regards

matthias
11-05-2011, 10:58 AM
For the cellphone-style input, this works on my side with the TV remote. Pressing a number multiple times gives the letter.


Now That's interesting! When I press 3x 3 to get an F, I actually get three 3's.
Could it be that I still have the old youtube application despite the 2011 TV? (Have the latest firmware).



But for that it could be also more user-friendly, if the selected letter from the list (which appears if pressing the number keys) would not just be in a different color (black instead of grey), but in also in a different size. Selected letter should also be enlarged. It would be easier to see from the back of the living room.

From my point of view the cellphone-style input is really enough to enter all texts for TV apps, but the way the UI provides help could be improved. Maybe also something like T9.

Good suggestions!
T9 is a great idea! Might be a challenge selecting the right languge, because I sometimes search english, sometimes german, but I like that!

matthias
11-05-2011, 10:59 AM
Hello Matthias, I've put the TV and soundbar models/description in the same form of my city/country (you can see them on the left right now).

Good idea, I'll do that!

Nettle
11-05-2011, 01:16 PM
Please mantain the location's indication ;-)

Best regards

smart
11-07-2011, 09:27 AM
@Matthias:
I'm using 2010 TV, so I have the old youTube app. If you have a 2011, as you stated, with newest firmware, you should have the new youtube leanback enabled automatically. Maybe the input style changed with the new youtube app.

matthias
11-08-2011, 01:52 AM
There was an update for the Youtube app today, but it still doesn't support that input style.

Is there a way to add the old Youtube Application to the NetTV homescreen?

matthias
11-10-2011, 04:10 PM
any news on that youtube app?
I found out it that the new leanback app is actually a fullscreen SWF running instead of a CE-HTML page.
This probably explains it why the handling feels so slow, especially for entering text and has no multi-tap support.

Has someone found a way to go back to the old youtube app?