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Toengel
12-08-2011, 07:56 PM
Hi,

Please share your experiences with this new SW version here in this topic. Channeling your input will make it easier for users to search and find relevant info.

Discuss here all your experiences when upgraded to the new version (http://www.supportforum.philips.com/showthread.php?729-Software-overview-for-8000-and-9000-series-(2010-models)): new, old, positive, negative.... (for example, the "sound drop at HDMI problem" or the "black screen during zapping problem" is solved !).

Toengel@Alex

Toengel
12-08-2011, 08:00 PM
Hi,

no changelog is available yet. This update is also already available for the 2010 Econova.

Edit:

Can everybody please check my bug list against firmware 140.44? Is something fixed? THANKS!

http://www.supportforum.philips.com/en/showthread.php?2223-Important-Bugs-which-need-to-be-fixed-in-2010-firmware-(TV550R1)

Toengel@Alex

ipodfan
12-08-2011, 08:41 PM
Hi, I don't see the file anywhere, the download page is still the old version

Toengel
12-08-2011, 08:55 PM
Hi,

which model do you have?

Toengel@Alex

ipodfan
12-08-2011, 08:58 PM
Its a 46pfl9705

Toengel
12-08-2011, 09:03 PM
Hi,

see: http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=46PFL9705K/02&slg=eng&scy=ENG (I assume you have a K model)

Toengel@Alex

ipodfan
12-08-2011, 09:09 PM
actually, turns out its an H model, but I found it, downloading now. thx Toengel. will post if I see something different.

lotemps
12-09-2011, 09:55 AM
Hi,

I'm sorry for my english...

I have a 9705 40" and I see the movies and games from Play Station 3. The problem when using the 3D, the image isn't nitid (background and first layer).

It's normal? Anyone else have the same problem? The last firmware 000.140.044.000 is the solution?

Thanks.

Toengel
12-09-2011, 09:59 AM
Hi,

did you installed FW 140.44? If not, please try...

Toengel@Alex

ali54
12-09-2011, 12:09 PM
i installed the 0.44 last night still testing i report back about a weeks time

ipodfan
12-09-2011, 01:09 PM
My 46pfl9705 never really had any issues, except maybe poor 3D quality, which in a previous update did improve quite a bit. The update to 144 did not create any new issues, which I guess is good, but I really didnt see any new functions or something (Net TV is still Net TV :-) )
My EPG did look fancier then I remember, but I had not used that for some time, so that might not be related to this update

Having an XBOX360 and PS3, I noticed recently several XBOX360 games support 3D as well using side by side (example: Gears of War 3), the 3D quality seems better then my PS3 games. This might be related to that in side by side the resolution is obviously lower as it combines 2 pictures into one.

durtro
12-09-2011, 03:04 PM
For me this firmware gives the same problems as the past one. Subtitles with dynamic backlight turned on don't work for many sources since it makes the whole panel blink in brightness. Basically the dynamic backlight is anything but subtle in many sources and thus I end up turning it off constantly. The other problem I had also remains. When connecting the tv to my pc through a dvi to hdmi cable, hence without an audio channel I have to mute the tv since sooner or later (after a few hours) the audio source from the tv antenna input starts playing on the tv despite of the selected hdmi video source of the computer.

My tv is pfl 32 9705 h

limpitakis
12-09-2011, 03:55 PM
The new firmware is not out for the cinema 21:9 yet,
Hope will be launched soon
Nick

Frisbee3
12-09-2011, 05:41 PM
Hi,
my model is 37pfl8605H/12 and I installed the release 140.44 this morning; apparently nothing different for audio&video features during normal channel display.
I noticed audio problem (a sort of stuttering sound) with PS3 games, all the time.
I downgraded to 140.40 and the problem disappeared.
I wait for software history
Ciao

Toengel
12-09-2011, 05:46 PM
Hi,

did you try to switch off the TV (main power)? This helps a lot...

Toengel@Alex

Frisbee3
12-09-2011, 05:52 PM
Hi,
yes, I did a couple of time both tv set and PS3 (just in case..), the sound problem was still there.
Ciao

christophexxx
12-09-2011, 06:46 PM
Hi,

The vertical banding (mpeg artefact reduction) seems to be out.

But:
1. Always color problem with perfect natural motion (in films, when there are movements).

2. Always differences whith the same program on tv tuner and HDMI: need to put definition at 5 with tv tuner, at 3 on HDMI to have the same levels of image peeking.

3. perfect contrast always is too high at maximum position, image is surexposed

miro9000
12-09-2011, 07:25 PM
Why are you working for free as Philips Betatesters ?
A firmware without information is a risk for your expensive tvs. Lets wait untill Philips says which solutions is giving this firmware.

Toengel
12-09-2011, 07:34 PM
The new firmware is not out for the cinema 21:9 yet,
Hope will be launched soon
Nick

Hi,

it's now available...

Toengel@Alex

PatrickB
12-09-2011, 09:11 PM
Hi,

Just upgraded to the latest version. I'm afraid the the "sound drop at HDMI problem" is still there. However the actual duration of the drop seems to be a much shorter(0.5-1 seconds). For me the drops only happen when watching HD-material, (HD-channels, HD-videogames and Blu-ray discs). My model is a 52pfl8605H/12

cderidder
12-09-2011, 10:07 PM
Same here with my Popcorn c-200 mediaplayer on a 46pfl9705h. Downgraded, problem gone. Upgraded again just to be sure, sound problem was back....Downgraded again, problem gone. As for 3D no changes, still to much crosstalk. Also dynamic backlight still reacts to much on subtitles and other movements causing a unnatural picture.
I must say that I am disappointed...again.


Hi,
my model is 37pfl8605H/12 and I installed the release 140.44 this morning; apparently nothing different for audio&video features during normal channel display.
I noticed audio problem (a sort of stuttering sound) with PS3 games, all the time.
I downgraded to 140.40 and the problem disappeared.
I wait for software history
Ciao

Lassy
12-10-2011, 07:44 AM
Why are you working for free as Philips Betatesters ?
A firmware without information is a risk for your expensive tvs. Lets wait untill Philips says which solutions is giving this firmware.

Very good point!

ali54
12-10-2011, 10:12 AM
how many pepole her have problem with subtitles and backlighting becuse on my 46plf9705/h i dont have this problem but saying that at times im not sure if the backlighting is doing any thing all most like its turned off

durtro
12-10-2011, 12:01 PM
how many pepole her have problem with subtitles and backlighting becuse on my 46plf9705/h i dont have this problem but saying that at times im not sure if the backlighting is doing any thing all most like its turned off

I have the subtitles problem. There are sources where the effect is not that visible but in others it is everything but subtle. It is generally more visible with homogeneous colored backgrounds, for example fog or even office gray walls where the walls "blink" with the subtitles appearance. To see if backlighting is doing anything you just have to turn it off an on preferably on dark scenes. An obvious example would be the initial or ending credits of a film where besides the white letters there is only the black background. You should see a big difference between an illuminated black and a non illuminated black. This effect should be more visible with a good input. In my case I use a pc 1080p input and in a 1080p mkv the difference is pretty big unless you have exaggerated levels of brightness.

ali54
12-10-2011, 01:04 PM
I have the subtitles problem. There are sources where the effect is not that visible but in others it is everything but subtle. It is generally more visible with homogeneous colored backgrounds, for example fog or even office gray walls where the walls "blink" with the subtitles appearance. To see if backlighting is doing anything you just have to turn it off an on preferably on dark scenes. An obvious example would be the initial or ending credits of a film where besides the white letters there is only the black background. You should see a big difference between an illuminated black and a non illuminated black. This effect should be more visible with a good input. In my case I use a pc 1080p input and in a 1080p mkv the difference is pretty big unless you have exaggerated levels of brightness.

hi there
i think i no what you talking about on my old 9705 week 40 it did the same where on some backround you can see the led blink.philips change the screen and signal bord and softwear to fix the 3d when i got the tv back the black level and colouer not as good so they exchanged the tv for a week 1/2011 this tv agine not as good as my week 40 but what i can see is there has been lot of improvment no more led blinking better viewing angel i dont no about its 3d as i dont have the kit any more
but looks to all this improvment comes at a cost where the black level not as good.i have don a test like you side on dark scens to can tell the backlighting is working fine but on out side scens not much dimming going on.its seems to me there is two difreent 9705 out threre one with new screen and singnal bord and diffrent sw version.if you have one with old parts may be it cant be fixed by softwear updates

Fan_TV
12-10-2011, 01:47 PM
FW v000.140.044.000 by 46PFL9705H

Hi,
I'm disappointed:
1) No more automatic updates (from USB), it is only through the TV-menu (Settings...) possible.
2) Sound-problem - some HDMI sources are "bleating" sound (e.g. IPTV STB SIG-220/340).

I returned the firmware v000.140.040.000

Erikrijnders
12-10-2011, 06:01 PM
FW v000.140.044.000 by 46PFL9705H

Hi,
I'm disappointed:
1) No more automatic updates (from USB), it is only through the TV-menu (Settings...) possible.
2) Sound-problem - some HDMI sources are "bleating" sound (e.g. IPTV STB SIG-220/340).

I returned the firmware v000.140.040.000

The first one a donot understand.... Updates are allways through USB!

STILL NO NOW/NEXT BOX WHEN ZAPPING DAMN!

Toengel
12-10-2011, 07:09 PM
Hi Eric,

with the first part he want to say, that in his case the update did not started automatically, after inserting the USB with the update... It only worked by starting the update manually in the settings menu...

However, on my TV it did worked by plugging in the USB stick...

Toengel@Alex

Fan_TV
12-10-2011, 07:44 PM
Hi Eric,
However, on my TV it did worked by plugging in the USB stick...

Toengel@Alex

logical, since you update from 40 version to the 44. But when you try from 44 version to update/downgrade... - you'll see ;)

Erikrijnders
12-10-2011, 11:33 PM
logical, since you update from 40 version to the 44. But when you try from 44 version to update/downgrade... - you'll see ;)
Nver downgrade by yourself!

jjs
12-11-2011, 10:33 AM
There is no difference in main-software between an H and K models.
There is only difference in 5000/6000 models (2 DRAMS) and 7000/8000/9000 models (4DRAMS) and there is difference for Italy and the 21:9 models (Q5553)

3D will not be better with any software update for these sets (crosstalk will exist) this is due to the speed of the panels and not the Philips Hard/software. The 2k11 models have a faster LCD and a scanning backlight so crosstalk will be as minimum as can be.

Someone said something about sharp usb timeshift, hahaha sharp, yep they make good microwaves.

HDMI audio drop out? that is mainly caused by cheap garbage you connect, not respecting the spdif format fully. You should use PCM output, wich most manufacturers support.

If you think you want to downgrade for any reason, don't go below 140.34 and don't use 140.37. 140.40 is one of the best.

Toengel
12-11-2011, 10:49 AM
Hi,

Sharp uses the same software platform: Aquos Net+ = Net TV ;-)

See also (images): http://58pfl9955.wordpress.com/2011/08/18/philips-vs-sharp-oder-die-frage-wo-ich-dies-schon-mal-gesehen-habe/

Toengel@Alex

jjs
12-11-2011, 12:00 PM
Hahaha i did not see that yet!
Its exactly the same CSM only i see few differences, software id s5551 in stead of Q5551, and the graphics used in the menu, but these are easy to change. Even Philips 12nc.

Ok for that reason i maybe have to withdraw my "hahaha sharp microwave", but other sets i have seen from sharp, well yeah ok, let it be.

jjs
12-11-2011, 12:46 PM
By the way i see that the release.txt was not updated, but maybe it is also a NETTV solution, as some tv's with 140.40 hang at the NETTV sign up page. So the set has to be downgraded to 140.34 then open NETTV and then upgrade to 140.40 again.

Also i would suggest people not to upgrade to quick when a new release is brought out. Better wait one or two weeks. Philips is known to introduce new bugs, and each new release can bring a new bug. And if it is not withdrawn within 2 weeks the new version is OK. It would not be the first time a new version is cancelled after being released.

Fan_TV
12-11-2011, 02:11 PM
Nver downgrade by yourself!

New - not always best ;)
...as in this case

P.S. poorly tested FW

ali54
12-11-2011, 02:19 PM
i had to downgrade to 0.34 as this is the better then thr rest for 2d pictuer the 0.44 not only the 2dpictuer wasent that good i had problem at times with sound cliking

Paladium
12-11-2011, 03:35 PM
Installed it yesterday after clearing all settings and a hard power-off.
Meanwhile I have noticed a new bug : intermediate soundclicks (fixed interval) when whatching a BD -> TV HDMI2 -> TV HDMI ARC -> HTS (and still no pass trough of DD).
Soundclicks are absent when BD -> SPDIF -> HTS.

46PFL9705 140.044
BDP8000 1.60
Yamaha YSP 4100 7.03

jjs
12-11-2011, 06:11 PM
Nver downgrade by yourself!

This is Bull****.
It depends on wich firmware you want to downgrade. it is known that some versions have potential bugs. don't use 140.37

140.34 and 140.40 are safe.

jjs
12-11-2011, 06:18 PM
hi there
i think i no what you talking about on my old 9705 week 40 it did the same where on some backround you can see the led blink.philips change the screen and signal bord and softwear to fix the 3d when i got the tv back the black level and colouer not as good so they exchanged the tv for a week 1/2011 this tv agine not as good as my week 40 but what i can see is there has been lot of improvment no more led blinking better viewing angel i dont no about its 3d as i dont have the kit any more
but looks to all this improvment comes at a cost where the black level not as good.i have don a test like you side on dark scens to can tell the backlighting is working fine but on out side scens not much dimming going on.its seems to me there is two difreent 9705 out threre one with new screen and singnal bord and diffrent sw version.if you have one with old parts may be it cant be fixed by softwear updates

there are not 2 9705 out there.The only improvement here is on 46inch wich of week 40 or 44 don't remember exactly has an improved lcd panel for 3D performance.

ali54
12-11-2011, 06:39 PM
there is 9705s out there with diffrent screen and signal brod and diffrent sw/versions i no this becuse i had both week 40 old parts and week 1/2011 with upgraded parts

Chrissie18
12-11-2011, 08:41 PM
there is 9705s out there with diffrent screen and signal brod and diffrent sw/versions i no this becuse i had both week 40 old parts and week 1/2011 with upgraded parts
I agree: I first had my 9705 also from week 40 or so.
It actually had a really bad viewing angle, but I didn't mind as we were always more or less in front of the TV. But the picture quality and dynamic backlighting worked really well (some small halos when for example with the serie 24 then ending clock is ticking and then disappears)

Then it broke down and as a fix almost everything in the TV was replaced, so also the panel.
Now it had a realy good viewing angle, but it realy anoyed me that the dynamic backlight was just like it was too bright for the panel...

Michiel1986
12-11-2011, 08:42 PM
i installed the 0.44 last night still testing i report back about a weeks time

is the screen sharpness now back again not so blurry anymore ?

ali54
12-11-2011, 08:56 PM
is the screen sharpness now back again not so blurry anymore ?

tryed for your self i dident see any improvment in 2d pictuer from 0.40

ali54
12-11-2011, 08:59 PM
chirssie18
so would you say this new tv you have has better 2d pictuer then your old one my thoughts on the new tv is the black level not as good and at times the black washes out but all this could be the new softwears we need 0.25 back so we can test

Michiel1986
12-11-2011, 09:15 PM
i just did i see that the picture is less blurrier now then before with update 140.40, it dont got the sharpness from an older update like 140.39 or 37 but its for sure better then 140.40, but still not crisp how i wanted it, but its oke for now, ooh wel lets wait another 6 months ?:P

so for everyone who wants the sharpness a little bit back go for this update :)

Michiel1986
12-11-2011, 09:18 PM
chirssie18
so would you say this new tv you have has better 2d pictuer then your old one my thoughts on the new tv is the black level not as good and at times the black washes out but all this could be the new softwears we need 0.25 back so we can test

the funny thing is the 9706 series are also cheaper then the 9705 series lol.

jjs
12-11-2011, 09:19 PM
there is 9705s out there with diffrent screen and signal brod and diffrent sw/versions i no this becuse i had both week 40 old parts and week 1/2011 with upgraded parts

no no no and no
there is no upgraded mainboard. The only thing new is the LCD panel wich has updated software in it, thats all. And software can do more than you can imagine...
The only differnce in mainboard can be the brand of used drams.
Sw difference can be the standby software, but this has to with matching timings with the used drams, nothing more nothing less.
And the panel for providing powers to the panel can be updated.

But if you would like to think there are 2 kinds of this model then keep on dreaming, be my guest ;)

ali54
12-11-2011, 09:39 PM
no no no and no
there is no upgraded mainboard. The only thing new is the LCD panel wich has updated software in it, thats all. And software can do more than you can imagine...
The only differnce in mainboard can be the brand of used drams.
Sw difference can be the standby software, but this has to with matching timings with the used drams, nothing more nothing less.
And the panel for providing powers to the panel can be updated.

But if you would like to think there are 2 kinds of this model then keep on dreaming, be my guest ;)

i will keep thinking what i like thankyou

Michiel1986
12-11-2011, 09:43 PM
@ ali i tested some things with this update on the tv the sharpness is a little bit better then update 140.40 [just a little] but on my game consoles wii and ps3 its even wurser now :( omg what is going with there updates!

if i could downgrade to version 140.34 i did ,but it dont work for me, when i put it on the flashdrive [usb stick] it says there nuthing on there.

ali54
12-11-2011, 09:55 PM
if you had 0.34 installed on your tv before you should be abile to downgrade.becuse i have gon back to 0.34 for now. can you tell me the steps you took to make the downgrade

Michiel1986
12-11-2011, 10:02 PM
if you had 0.34 installed on your tv before you should be abile to downgrade.becuse i have gon back to 0.34 for now. can you tell me the steps you took to make the downgrade

Normaly i put the autorun.upg on a flashdrive but the tv dont see downgrade updates :(

ali54
12-11-2011, 10:14 PM
Normaly i put the autorun.upg on a flashdrive but the tv dont see downgrade updates :(

you need to turn off the tv by the switch keep you finger on the ok key on the remote then turn the switch back on then it will start the downgrade

Michiel1986
12-12-2011, 03:00 AM
What the hell is going on i have sound drops with my BDP7500 on every movie is this normal ?

I hired the newest movie Conan and i also get sound drops in there to, this is serious not good to watch!

edit: back on 140.39 again, thx ali :)

rollufje
12-12-2011, 10:30 AM
Hi all,

The dutch version is on the website still is .40. The link on the website says .44.
Only when unpacked, the modify date of the files is august 2011 and the TV states that the update isn't newer than what's already installed.

@philips: when will the new files be uploaded?

Thanks in advance,

Rolf

Toengel
12-12-2011, 10:34 AM
Hi,

try the English or German ones - the files are the same - they are multilingual

Toengel@Alex

rollufje
12-12-2011, 10:46 AM
@toengel
Ah, thanks, didn't know that.
Time to install the new one...

jjs
12-12-2011, 11:17 AM
140.44 solves this

HDMI audiointerruptions
Picture freeze on HD

jjs
12-12-2011, 11:19 AM
i will keep thinking what i like thankyou

No problem, keep thinking what you like.

You think, but i know :p

speedlink
12-12-2011, 11:51 AM
Hello, first sorry for my english.

I want to downgrade to 140.040 because i have the sound problem with BD, but i don't now where i can download it.
Thank you.

ali54
12-12-2011, 11:57 AM
her is the link to all softwears
http://philips.samipupu.com/9xx5.html

speedlink
12-12-2011, 12:12 PM
Thanks!!!! It's ok for 8xx5 models?

ali54
12-12-2011, 02:29 PM
Thanks!!!! It's ok for 8xx5 models?

im not to sure looks like the 9 series only

Michiel1986
12-12-2011, 04:40 PM
I never had this sound problem with every update, and now i had it with 140.44 this update but i get hdmi sound drops true my bdp7500 :( i am back on 140.39 now agian but this is not right.
The strange thing is the sound drops only is there on the bluray disc player not on the media box from upc.

ali54
12-12-2011, 05:06 PM
I never had this sound problem with every update, and now i had it with 140.44 this update but i get hdmi sound drops true my bdp7500 :( i am back on 140.39 now agian but this is not right.
The strange thing is the sound drops only is there on the bluray disc player not on the media box from upc.

you still geting sound drop using 0.39 or is it just 0.44

Michiel1986
12-12-2011, 08:24 PM
you still geting sound drop using 0.39 or is it just 0.44

Only with 140.44

petasis
12-12-2011, 08:37 PM
I have the subtitles problem. There are sources where the effect is not that visible but in others it is everything but subtle. It is generally more visible with homogeneous colored backgrounds, for example fog or even office gray walls where the walls "blink" with the subtitles appearance. To see if backlighting is doing anything you just have to turn it off an on preferably on dark scenes. An obvious example would be the initial or ending credits of a film where besides the white letters there is only the black background. You should see a big difference between an illuminated black and a non illuminated black. This effect should be more visible with a good input. In my case I use a pc 1080p input and in a 1080p mkv the difference is pretty big unless you have exaggerated levels of brightness.

Try to reduce your contrast setting. There is no local dimming TV that does not have halo in the lit zones.

petasis
12-12-2011, 08:48 PM
I also upgraded to 140.44. I like the picture quality (especially DVB-T quality is very good, and not noisy as with 140.40), but I also face the problem with PS3 games and sounddrops with HDMI inputs. I think it is a little worse than 140.40 for sound.

ali54
12-12-2011, 09:22 PM
philips need to change the way they oprate selling tvs with out testing and qc then try to fix all the problems after words not only it cost philips lot of time and money. there is lot of head ache for the consumer

durtro
12-12-2011, 10:52 PM
Try to reduce your contrast setting. There is no local dimming TV that does not have halo in the lit zones.

It is not a contrast setting problem. The problem is that the so called local dimming affects the whole frame and not only the surroundings of the new brighter element in certain conditions. I can make the whole panel "blink" by just making the mouse pointer appear in some still frames from some movie and anime sources.

Chrissie18
12-13-2011, 07:11 AM
chirssie18
so would you say this new tv you have has better 2d pictuer then your old one my thoughts on the new tv is the black level not as good and at times the black washes out but all this could be the new softwears we need 0.25 back so we can test

No I was saying that the viewing angle (the number of steps you can take to the left or right before the colours completely fade away) is dramatically better with the new panel, but indeed the black values - or at least the annoying dynamic backlight artifacts - are also dramatic worst.

I would have preferred the old panel, but maybe this was also a bad repair job. Anyways, it doesn't matter as they have taken the TV again...

Chris

Fan_TV
12-13-2011, 11:29 AM
I compare the two firmware again (44 with 40).
Besides the problems with the sounddrops by HDMI inputs, I think the sound (its saturation) from main tuner is much worse. I mean, the FW 44 is faulty.

driss_himdi
12-13-2011, 10:08 PM
Hello, this is my first time here as a forum member!

Ever since FW v0.140.040.0 for my 40pfl9705 and prior to that, I had no problems (as I remember) and was happy...

Then as soon as I updated to the latest: 0.140.044.0, I started having these nasty stuttering noise when ever I raise the volume while playing Playstation 3 (HDMI).

Please Philips, I love and enjoy your products but I need help to resolve this issue? :/

johngialips
12-13-2011, 10:47 PM
image quality for DVB-T is better now.
until now all updates fixed something but something else is going worse.
i am not technician but i think that 73MB firmware are not enough to handle hardware or software problems.so you win some.. you loose some.
if this happens then i want a firmware only for image quality and 3d.for nothing else.

Michiel1986
12-14-2011, 12:41 AM
Hello, this is my first time here as a forum member!

Ever since FW v0.140.040.0 for my 40pfl9705 and prior to that, I had no problems (as I remember) and was happy...

Then as soon as I updated to the latest: 0.140.044.0, I started having these nasty stuttering noise when ever I raise the volume while playing Playstation 3 (HDMI).

Please Philips, I love and enjoy your products but I need help to resolve this issue? :/

Just downgrade for now to version 140.40 or below, i had a similar problem, also with my console and my BDP7500 blu ray disc player.

I have version 140.39 back on it again no problems anymore, not the enoying HDMI sound stutter anymore lol.

I never had this with any firmware update the HDMI sound stutter then suddenly when i had this with firmware 140.44 it began.

So for all u guys who wanne instal the new firmware 140.44 dont do it!

Nazgul
12-14-2011, 07:30 AM
Toengel,


Changelog (http://www.supportforum.philips.com/en/showthread.php?2223-Important-Bugs-which-need-to-be-fixed-in-2010-firmware-(TV550R1):
2011-08-22: added clarification 8 / feature 10, 11 / bug 10, 11, 12, 13
2011-08-23: added feature 12 / bug 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19
2011-08-25: bug 12 fixed with FW 140.40
2011-08-26: feature 14
2011-08-27: features 15, 16, 17
2011-08-28: feature 18
2011-08-30: features 19, 20, 21
2011-09-01: bug 20, feature 15 => tbc
2011-09-06: bug 21
201!-09-07: feature 22
2011-09-09: bug 22
2011-09-10: bug 23
2011-09-13: features 23, 24
2011-09-21: bug 24, workaround for bug 1
2011-09-27: bug 25
2011-09-29: bug 26
2011-09-30: bug 27
2011-10-05: Comments were made by Philips - Thomas (red underlined)
2011-10-18: feature 25
2011-10-20: bug 4 updated
2011-11-02: bug 28
2011-11-03: feature 26
2011-11-05: feature 27
2011-11-25: bug 29, 30, 31, feature 28
2011-12-07: bug 10 updated with link
2011-12-08: Firmware 140.44 released for 8K and 9K series
2011-12-12: Clarification 1 - SOLVED
...

Philips 42PFL6805H & firmware 140.44
Fixed only:
1) 2011-08-22: feature 10:

There is no zoom setting to display TV broadcasts in 4:3 aspect ratio without stretching to 16:9
2) Аdded icons (discs, folders and files) for USB.

And where all remaining clarifications, features & bugs from the changelog?

Toengel
12-14-2011, 07:54 AM
Hi,

sorry - I don't understand what you want to say...

Toengel@Alex

Nazgul
12-14-2011, 08:02 AM
Toengel,
The clarifications, features & bugs from the changelog isn't present in the 140.44 firmware.
Why?
Only for the 2011 models?
What is really made in the 140.44 firmware?

Toengel
12-14-2011, 08:05 AM
Hi,

you want to know, why not all listed items are fixed?

Well - 2011 and 2012 firmware have much more priority...

Toengel@Alex

Nazgul
12-14-2011, 08:29 AM
ok, old Q55х.хE + old Display + new thin case + new firmware = 2011 (и 2012?) :(
аbout firmware bugs for 2010 have forgotten ...
sound lost - 2011, 2 years :( => bugs Q55х.хE or firmware?

miro9000
12-14-2011, 11:11 AM
At last, the information

Q55xx_0.140.44.0(Publication date: 2011-12-08)
Solution for audio drops and mutes with DVB-S boxes from Polsat.
Solution for Video picture disturbances / freezes on two DVB-C HD services
on Eltrona Luxembourg network.
Solution for sudden volume changes on Bose HCS systems via SPDIF.
Solution for sound lost in combination with specific Hotel STB.
Solution for slow respond of TV RC keys.

A very limited upgrade, just some sound bugs for certain devices and networks. Nothing about Picture quality.
So, i dont need to upgrade (Im not from Louxemburg, neither i have a Bose or Polsat, neither i live in a hotel)

Nazgul
12-14-2011, 11:18 AM
sound lost - 140.хх - 140.44 - 2010, 14.84 и 14.88 - 2011 - not fixed 2 years (all countries)!!! Why? => Q55х.хE (?) but not firmware.

140.44 fixed only:
1) 2011-08-22: feature 10:
There is no zoom setting to display TV broadcasts in 4:3 aspect ratio without stretching to 16:9
2) Аdded icons (discs, folders and files) for USB.

ali54
12-14-2011, 11:21 AM
yes i aggre with you guys here philips need to make a update for pictuer quilty

Nazgul
12-14-2011, 12:40 PM
I think because of the bad firmware buy not Philips TV more.
Firmwares - the problem number one every year.

Erikrijnders
12-14-2011, 05:23 PM
Still no now/next when zapping!!!!!!!!!!! Damn! This sucks!

petasis
12-14-2011, 07:44 PM
I compare the two firmware again (44 with 40).
Besides the problems with the sounddrops by HDMI inputs, I think the sound (its saturation) from main tuner is much worse. I mean, the FW 44 is faulty.

Hm, I have observed the opposite. The DVB-T sound level is very good with 140.44.
There is a setting in the sound settings, about automatic change of the sound level. Can you try enabling it?

petasis
12-14-2011, 07:45 PM
Hello, this is my first time here as a forum member!

Ever since FW v0.140.040.0 for my 40pfl9705 and prior to that, I had no problems (as I remember) and was happy...

Then as soon as I updated to the latest: 0.140.044.0, I started having these nasty stuttering noise when ever I raise the volume while playing Playstation 3 (HDMI).

Please Philips, I love and enjoy your products but I need help to resolve this issue? :/

I also have problems with PS3 with 140.44. This is something that needs to be fixed.

Nazgul
12-15-2011, 08:41 AM
140.44 - 140.40 (140.39) = new bugs!!!
Probably it is necessary to change programmers (?)

miro9000
12-15-2011, 11:41 AM
After all, i made the upgrade. :p
I have no problems with sounddrops in Hdmi (well, Im a lucky guy because I never had it) and the image looks better (more brilliant and sharp).
Why Philips dont talk about it in the changelog ? Im sure that they are changing something else than the solutions for Eltrona or Polsat.

Michiel1986
12-15-2011, 01:29 PM
After all, i made the upgrade. :p
I have no problems with sounddrops in Hdmi (well, Im a lucky guy because I never had it) and the image looks better (more brilliant and sharp).
Why Philips dont talk about it in the changelog ? Im sure that they are changing something else than the solutions for Eltrona or Polsat.

Your not lucky i have never had hdmi sounddrops never only with that firmware 140.44 try hdmi true your bluray disc player and not not your mediabox then report back here.

ipodfan
12-15-2011, 02:42 PM
Me and several other people never had sound drop issues. Logic dictates that this means these are issues with a particular production series. Again, this then in turn means that if you have sound drops, it cannot be fixed with a firmware update.

In general, it would be unlikely any issue that has not been ironed out on a 2010 model will be fixed 2 years later.

Sorry for those of you having issues, but I realistically think this will never be solved on your particular set.

pielle007
12-15-2011, 03:01 PM
Sorry for those of you having issues, but I realistically think this will never be solved on your particular set.

You are wrong, as i said before in the other fw topics:

a mechanic confirmed it too, he said "when you have sound drops, you need to have a new signalboard". My signalboard is replaced 2 times sinds i bought the tv,
The production date of the latest signalboard is 30june 2011.
I didn't have any souddrops sinds the first replacement.

Nazgul
12-16-2011, 07:52 AM
14.91 firmware (2011 models) - sound drops!!! => or - or:
1) Q55x.xE bad but only at some TV.
2) Source (computer, PS, player and their firmware or drivers) + HDMI cable + TV - have problems.

Alex26_1974
12-16-2011, 09:30 PM
Hi, I fifty-eight PFL9955 H / 12 for him to connect HDMI ARC HTS9520 / Home Theatre / when the TV speakers in the cinema, an audible click,
click No if cinema is connected via coaxial cable.
Question about this problem Toengel software or defect TV?
If the firmware is when Phillips mistake?

Translated through an interpreter.

bovirus
12-18-2011, 09:16 AM
I have a 37PFL8605M TV payed on Juanuary 2011 1000Euros.

I discovered taht Philips launch in second half of 2011 th TV with USB recordings.

I didn't understand because Philips don't release a firmware update to enable this functions on top rate TV of 2011 (or last month of 2010).

Why Philips to have the latest technologies (that non depend by hardware changes but from software implementation) has other brand (like Samsung) offer for TV of 2010 (Samsung reelased new firmware version that ogffer USB recrding also on 2010 TV products).

Second: from a lot of time in the menu of TV there are some errors in localization. I send email to Philips support. No one answered. Who is in charge of it? Why noone receive this feeback and implemnt the necessary changes?

Erikrijnders
12-18-2011, 10:06 AM
Agreed with bovirus. One doesnot buy a tv for short-term use. Philips should understand that new features must also go for the 2010-tv's.

Furthermore it cannot be true that Phips had new tv's 2011 and 2012 and doesnot care anymore about 2009 and 2010 users!!!!! There must be an overal software layer that goes for all tv's.

We are missing a lot now on the 2010-tv's, like USB-recording and NOW/NEXT when zapping.

bovirus
12-18-2011, 10:42 AM
I didn't mean that Philips don't support 2009/2010 products.

Infact my 37PFL8605M have a new firmwareat first week of December 2011.

My question it's very smple.
The software that handle the TV and emdia player function is Linux.
Why don't incliude (As main competitor brand like Samsung and LG did for 2010 models) the firmware part to use teh USB recording.

I paied 1000 euros for a top TV by Philips and now I discovered as post sell support that a Smasung TV sold in 2010 (with half price than my Philips) has more features (USB recording) than my TV.

The poist support is equal important than product specifications.

Or Philips think that I will buy a new TV this year/next year?

But tehre also some problems in teh post support.

- The changelog of new firmware is available one week/two weeks afetr the fimware was reelased. But o understand if the firmware is usefull ofr me the changelog is primary resource. The changelog should be available in teh same with firmware file (in the same archive) and as sperate object to read.

- The software contains teh same error (ex. Setup in Italian) and after a lot of rmail also to the admin of this forum no one reply or are intersted to fix some "few" stupid problem (stupid to fix but important for the users).

petasis
12-18-2011, 12:45 PM
Me and several other people never had sound drop issues. Logic dictates that this means these are issues with a particular production series. Again, this then in turn means that if you have sound drops, it cannot be fixed with a firmware update.

In general, it would be unlikely any issue that has not been ironed out on a 2010 model will be fixed 2 years later.

Sorry for those of you having issues, but I realistically think this will never be solved on your particular set.

On my 9705 set, I am experiencing sound-drops but seems to happen only on a subset of my devices.
I have sound drops with my HTPC (HDMI 1), & Bluray player (HDMI 3), but never with my sat receiver (HDMI 2). I have no idea why I never got sound-drops with my sat receiver.

petasis
12-18-2011, 12:53 PM
I see a lot of discussion about usb-recording. Why do you think it is such a good feature, provided that recordings are encrypted?
I don't want this feature in my 9705, I prefer they fix the missing now/next feature, and DVB-T EPG.

If we, as owners, keep asking about something that Philips has said that it will never be available (as recording is done in hardware in 2011 models), at the end we will get nothing.
We have to target our requests on what is feasible.

For example, fix the global effect appearing subtitles have on the picture.

punschula
12-18-2011, 01:55 PM
Hello,
i have asked this Question in the past, but no responding. Now again: Have any the problem, that the Autozoom in HD-Sources over HD-Receiver on HDMI-2, not works? I mean the thick black Beams left and right on the Picture. In the past, it works automatically. But since the last 3 or 4 Updates, it will only work, when i switch between the Sources HDMI-1 and HDMI-2. Is there any solution or a solution planned from Philips? Hi Philips, i have ask to the Service 4 Times for this Problem, but i received NEVER any Answer. This is a poor Service, sorry..

ali54
12-18-2011, 03:53 PM
i just whant my inky black level back so bring back the 0.25 not much to ask for after all pictuer quilty is the main part of the tv i payed for

cdf
12-18-2011, 05:20 PM
Hi,

I thought i'd treat myself to a BDP7605/05 blu-ray player for Christmas. As part of installing it I did an update of both my PFL8605/12 to this software version .44 from .39 and the player to FW1.35, was massively dissapointed to say the least when I started getting a 'clipping' or 'clicking' noise when playing blu-ray discs via any HDMI port and with different HDMI leads. Not getting the sound when watching my via Sky HD decoder and was about to return the BDP7600 back to Philips to tell them to stick it as it was totally unusable and go back my trusty 2 year old 2d Sony blu-ray player.

So glad I read that it's this software version thats apparently causing this problem, rolled back my software to .39 and happy days again. Think I'll stay where I am and enjoy .39 and a usable 3d blu-ray player.

This is pretty poor quality from Philips, love the TV so much (blows our previous Samsung TV out the water) and wanted the blu-ray to go with it based on the quality and style of the TV but this is sorely testing my faith in Philips at the moment. Comes across as very amateur (sure they're not though!).

BTW the 3d version transmitted last night by the BBC of Strictly Come Dancing was amazing quality - no crosstalk at all, not sure if or what they did but we'd never seen 3d quality as good outside of a cinema, just hope it wasn't down to FW .44!

hmduarte
12-19-2011, 01:28 AM
Hi

I updated firmware from .40 to .44 and have now an audio clipping problem. When the sound gets louder, that click gets more pronounced.

I'm going back to .40, because .44 doesn't look very well tested. I'm on 40pfl9705 H through hdmi port with cable tv box.

Michiel1986
12-19-2011, 09:45 AM
On my 9705 set, I am experiencing sound-drops but seems to happen only on a subset of my devices.
I have sound drops with my HTPC (HDMI 1), & Bluray player (HDMI 3), but never with my sat receiver (HDMI 2). I have no idea why I never got sound-drops with my sat receiver.

I have or had the same problem, only with my blu ray disc player [BDP7500] i dont have the sound stutter with my UPC HD mediabox.

Back on firmware 140.39 again no problems anymore.

Michiel1986
12-19-2011, 09:51 AM
Hi

I updated firmware from .40 to .44 and have now an audio clipping problem. When the sound gets louder, that click gets more pronounced.

I'm going back to .40, because .44 doesn't look very well tested. I'm on 40pfl9705 H through hdmi port with cable tv box.

Use firmware 140.39 the image quality is much sharper and crispier.
Not so blurry as version 140.40 trust me :)

Pety99
12-19-2011, 05:16 PM
Use firmware 140.39 the image quality is much sharper and crispier.
Not so blurry as version 140.40 trust me :)

Hi,

could you explain in detail how to revert to a previous program? I'm using version 140.40 and I would like to return to version 140.39
:confused:
Thanks

Lech1
12-19-2011, 08:03 PM
46PFL8605H/12 and PS3 connected via HDMI - terrible sound clicks introduced with this version. I do hope Philips fixes it before Xmas as we are going to play games during that time!

schloessi
12-19-2011, 08:23 PM
Hi,

see: http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=46PFL9705K/02&slg=eng&scy=ENG (I assume you have a K model)

Toengel@Alex

I have 7605/H. Can I use the same?

Toengel
12-19-2011, 08:43 PM
Hi,

just download the firmware on the support page of your TV. The Zip file contain the 140.40. If not, change the language (the files are multilingual) to prevent for some caching effects...

Toengel@Alex

Gerhard
12-19-2011, 09:54 PM
...
My signalboard is replaced 2 times sinds i bought the TV
...

thanks for that. Today I called the service and I hope they will replace the signalboard.
BTW I just saw that Philips has released firmware 140.45 - seems another desperate try to
fix whatever problem ;)

Cheers
Gerhard

Toengel
12-19-2011, 10:57 PM
Hi,

Firmware 140.45 has been released: Please install it and post your comments: http://www.supportforum.philips.com/en/showthread.php?3735-Your-experiences-with-FW-v0.140.45.0-for-8xx5-and-9xx5-series-(2010-models)

Please take a look a all sound issues!

Toengel@Alex

Michiel1986
12-20-2011, 12:24 AM
Hi,

could you explain in detail how to revert to a previous program? I'm using version 140.40 and I would like to return to version 140.39
:confused:
Thanks

When u got the firmware 140.39 on a usb stick, put your tv off, push the usb stick in the usb port of the tv, then pres the power button on your tv back on again, while doing that hold the OK button on your philips remote and then if i am corect it wil automatic downgrade your firmware to version 39 or below whatever version u want :)

Philips - Thomas
12-20-2011, 07:14 AM
Hi Guys,

please all Update your Sets and use this new Thread. (http://www.supportforum.philips.com/en/showthread.php?3735-Your-experiences-with-FW-v0.140.45.0-for-8xx5-and-9xx5-series-%282010-models%29)

Regards
Thomas
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