View Full Version : Few questions to PHILIPS support guys and the community.

LED beginner
12-12-2011, 10:49 PM
First to say: Hello and thank you for the great community. As you see from my name I am a LED TV beginner, but I am actualy kinda PC geek. Anyway I have some questions regarding a PHILIPS LED TV we intend to buy.
Because I just lack the information (of course have been reading a lot these days)
So the model we want to buy is from 2010 and is: PHILIPS 32PFL7605H/12
Why we want to buy it?
Because of the amazing features 100 Hz and 2 ms refresh rate. The contrast ratio is not millions to 1, but I still think it will be very good TV when we talk about picture quality! And I know its EDGE LED but most of the LED TVs now are EDGE LED and the ones that are not lack some other key features but this is not to be discused in this topic)

The things I would like to ask the PHILIPS support guys and the guys from the community are for the subtitles
I read on some other forum that this TV IS ABLE (as we know from specifications it is NOT) to show subtitles through DLNA connection (LAN or Wifi i dont think it maters) using a specific DLNA server on the Computer that was streaming media.
So what do you think of that?
Another important question: Is it true that you can only watch 720p HD when watching through DLNA wireless connection?
If so is the wired DLNA connection able to show full HD movie picture?)
The other thing that Concerns me a lot is: Are the Philips software specialists intending to compile and release a New Firmware that will have more options for the TV player:
better playing movie formats, more options, fixed known bugs, improved quality, and most of all : adding native subtitle support?
Because from all TV brands we have been looking I think PHILIPS are the best when it comes to screen quality and Picture quality. But I have read on forums that PHILIPS TVs lack the support for some formats ( and this is the time to ask is it possible for the philips software specialits to compile a new firmware that will add more codecs?) and the lack of native subtitle support? It is even strange why there is no Subtitle support?
I will thank each one of the Philips support guys and the community guys who have information and would like to discus it in this topic.
Will I be able to connect to Net TV through the wireless dongle that is used for the DLNA if the dongle is connected to my ome WI FI router (using the dongle to connect to PC for DLNA and at same time to connect TV to the internet?

The last thing to ask is what is the warranty on PHILIPS TVs? The seller offers us 2 year warranty but isnt that just a seller warranty? What is the manifacturer warranty for the PHILIPS 32PFL7605H/12

And will uploading the firmware myself void the waranty?
Thank you all! :)
(Sorry if I have made any typos)

12-12-2011, 11:35 PM
At some points, I can give you answers:

DLNA supports also FullHD 1920x1080 resolution. I have tried that with two Mediaservers and it was no issue. Even using WLAN
You are also able to use FullHD with videos from USB stick
ARD and ZDF HD are looking good, but I do not know the resolution, if 720p or 1080p. I think it is 720p. So not sure if there is contect provided with DVB-C in FullHD.
Regarding codecs, it is not so easy to update since processing power is limited and there has to be special hardware support built in for the codecs. Don't expect more codecs to be supported.
Regarding DLNA, there is one issue open with xvid coded files, which are not played, when the media server supports advanced streaming options like Fritz Mediaserver. See here: http://www.supportforum.philips.com/en/showthread.php?1754-DLNA-Interoperability-and-Mimetype&highlight=format
Regarding picture quality, I'm fully satisfied with the TV
I do not use subtitles, so I can't say something about it
I use a WLAN-Ethernet Bridge to connect the TV to the home WLAN network. This is a little cheaper than the Philips WLAN Dongle and you will have the USB port left for just plug in a USB stick and browse the content.
If you are interested in videostores via NetTV, you might want to choose a 2011 TV model. They have also acetrax and there is the chance of getting maxdome (large german videostore). 2010TV Model as you might want to buy seem to have a lag in DRM protection.

I have 42PFL7695K/02 and use it for almost a year in germany. This is basically the same, with just a larger display and an DVB-S receiver.

If you are a kind of a geek, have a look, there is a list of known bugs/limitations of the 2010 TVs in this forum. Just search for "[Important]". By reading it, you should be able if those things are important for you or not. And also keep in mind, that this list was created by technically very well educated and very critical users. So there should not be much more ;-), since the 2010 TVs are some time on the market...

LED beginner
12-13-2011, 09:08 AM
Thank you so much! You have no idea how helpful this was!
So you are not using wifi but just ordinary LAN cable to connect to PC.
The one thing I could not understand is: is it possible to connect the TV to internet through the WI FI dongle that is used for DLNA?
Anyway what you did is just amazing you answered almost every question I had.
As for the wi fi dongle I have searched the internet and found information that non Philips wi fi dongles work too. And they are cheaper too. As far as I have seen philips dongle is hard to find in local stores and in most internet electronics store, but I have information that cheaper dongles work. samsung TVs are also reported to work with many other brand usb dongles.
I looked at the specs of few of them and what I found:
the speed must be 300 Mb/s (but I dont know if 150 might work well because they ave reported that real transfer speed is less than 100 Mb/s)
also they must have the N protocol 802.11n in order to be able to work in dlna mode
I will give you a brand that I am almost 99 percent sure it will work (from information from other forum for PHILIPS TVs)
one was Edimax 300 mb/s ordinary usb dongle for PC with the N protocol,
and 2 models:
Edimax EW-7718Un
Edimax EW-7717Un

and when I watch the list of known usb dongles compatible with samsung TVs I am sure that even cheap chinese one will work if they are fast enough and have the 802.11n protocol.

Actualy we are not going to use NET TV most of the time, may be very rarely but it will be good if it works fine.(in first post I said that we want to buy it mainly because of the picture quality and other picture related features) The support for DLNA and reading some video files comes as bonus for me, but I still hope they improve it so we can watch more media.
As for buying 2011 TV its of course the best solution but at the moment they are not available in most of the stores in my country and this means higher price.

Again thank you very much for all the information you shared. I will be very happy if you continue the discussion when you have more valuable information.

12-13-2011, 11:18 AM
You're welcome!

To connect the TV to my home network, I used this:

You connect the TV with an ethernet cable to the wlan bridge as above and then the TV is connected to WLAN with using the ethernet port. The wlan bridge (netgear wnce2001) need a seperate power supply, this is the only disadvantage.

Once you have connected the TV to your home network, you can use the internet connection at your home network and you can use DLNA in your home network with all DLNA compatible devices at home. This might be your PC, smartphone, NAS or any other media server or control point.

So if you are asking if DLNA and internet are working with the same network connection, this is true. One connection to your home network either via ethernet or WLAN USB Dongle is enough.

Regarding other compatible non-Philips wlan dongles I can help you. I never tried, I heard that it might work in some cases for samsung, but have no further knowledge on this.


LED beginner
12-13-2011, 07:47 PM
Hello ! the TV is now here we just came from the store! It was the last one, we took it from the display shelf. We just took it under the nose of other customers that were eager to buy it. There are only few of these TVs left in the country!

The TV is nice, but I cant connect the TV to NET TV
again: the model is: PHILIPS 32PFL7605H/12
What I do to connect it: (without router) I took out the LAN cable that goes in the LAN card of my computer and put it directly in the TVs LAN port. I did all settings, set IP, subnet mask and so on exactly as on the PC. NO luck! It says it connected to home network but when it goes on to connect to the internet it just stays on that screen forever trying to connect to the internet.

Do you have any ideas why this is happening? Do I need a router to connect the TV to the internet and net TV?
smart, so you put a LAN cable in the back of your TV and the other end of the cable to the wlan bridge? And then the WLAN bridge connects wirelessly to your router?

I checked the firmware in the menu it is

550 R1
I guess it may be old? But havent seen any bugs though...
What routers are most of you using to stream DLNA with HD wirelessly? 54 Mbps, 150 Mbps or 300 Mbps? 802.11b/g or 802.11 b/g/n certified?
Again thank you for the support!

LED beginner
12-13-2011, 11:05 PM
Hello! I just updated the firmware to the newest version without any problem.
havent tried Net TV again but looks like it requires an Ethernet connection, not a direct Internet connection. So I think I need a router.

Can you give me an idea what router do I need? Some specifications?

What routers are most of you using to stream DLNA with HD wirelessly? 54 Mbps, 150 Mbps or 300 Mbps? 802.11b/g or 802.11 b/g/n certified?

12-18-2011, 09:09 AM
You can use an ethernet connection (if the TV is near to your router) or a Wifi USB key (if your TV is not near to the Wifi router).

If you want just send file/video from pc is not nececssary the internet connection.

If you have to buy the Usb key Wifi (not cheaper) you acn consider also some specific mini router (liek Digicom REW300) that offer up 5 ethernet connection and connect tehd evice via Wifi to a router.

I used it in my home to connect tv and media box to my router.

LED beginner
12-19-2011, 08:26 PM
Looks like I will be doing it the old school way with wores :) At least it will be faster, cheaper and more reliable!