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starterz
05-28-2012, 03:21 PM
Hello all,

My 40PFL6606 supports .SRT subtitles from USB, but they are ugly and small as hell, and aligned to the left. Most of the time, I connect a laptop through HDMI to be able to see normal subtitles.

I would surely want to be a bit bigger, in another font and center-aligned. Anyone else with comments on this matter?

Philips (Mark or Thomas), can we place a request to change the appearence of the USB subtitles as presented at the moment?

I will add to this post, a screenshot of current state and how I think subtitles should look - nothing too fancy but minimum watchable. This will make the USB subs feature MUCH more usable.

Stay well.

Philips - Thomas
05-29-2012, 11:49 AM
Hi

sure i will give this forward but i can not give any promises.
If i see anything related to that one i will inform you.

Regards
Thomas

starterz
05-29-2012, 11:54 AM
Super, I will add the screenshots today, do what you can do. All best.

starterz
06-09-2012, 09:25 PM
Well, it took me a while to do the screenshots but here they are. Three different shots:

1. Philips - USB - AVI+SRT
2. HDMI - The KMPlayer
3. HDMI - VLC Player


http://s16.postimage.org/3y63y5zb5/Philips3.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/3y63y5zb5/)

http://s16.postimage.org/3k4rykf7l/KMPlayer3.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/3k4rykf7l/)

http://s16.postimage.org/ivekz6cjl/VLCPlayer3.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/ivekz6cjl/)

Please try to change the subtitle rendering to look at least close to those shown by KMPlayer or VLC.

Feedback on this issue would be highly appreciated.

Stay well.

nimbystripes
06-12-2012, 03:36 AM
I would say that the subtitle shows normal. I guess that will depend on the .srt file you have. I am not sure if you can edit this file to make the fonts bigger. http://imagicon.info/cat/12-19/icon_e_smile.gif

starterz
06-12-2012, 08:38 AM
No, .SRT files have no information on font name and/or size. It can be changes only in the system (in the firmware). And these are really too small and use a font not good to the eyes.

Another bug, when longer subtitles should appear - they appear in 3-4 lines, covering half the screen of the TV. The maximum width of the subtitles should be bigger, or maybe at 80-90% of the available TV screen width.

Thomas, Mark - please forward this info to the developers and provide some feedback on the issue.

el_lama
06-12-2012, 11:08 AM
Would recommend you to buy some small, cheap MMC like Asus OPlay, Xtreamer, WD TV Live etc. Philips/TVP will not add such feature you propose. I bet this is not gonna happen even for 2012 TVs.

TVs/BR players in general does have less features that any MMC. I do not play avi/mkv on my TV anymore since it's useless. I do use my BR player and even this is not great. MMC is much better option.

starterz
06-12-2012, 11:15 AM
I am not asking for any feature. Just for Philips to correct the DEFAULT VIEW of the .SRT subtitles:

1. Change font, needs to be more eye friendly;
2. Bigger size, at least one point;
3. Centered subs, not left aligned;
4. Larger subtitle margins to the left and to the right - so longer subs can appear in 2 lines instead of 3 or 4.

I don't see any problems in implementation with this request as it is not a new feature request. It is just a matter of will from Philips.

All best.

el_lama
06-12-2012, 11:31 AM
Quite imagine that you are pissed off but who decides what font is more friendly? What size is ideal? Why centered subs?

They would have to rework this part of firmware significantly ... and they will not do it since all is about money.

starterz
06-12-2012, 11:44 AM
I am not pissed at all, the subtitles work. I am just suggesting changes that will make this feature be more usefull, which is one goal for these forums. To answer your questions:

1. Philips decides, of course. But, screens show that the font is hard to read and should be changed to another with higher & wider characters.
2. Ideal size is the one that is easily readable with plain eyes from 4 meters (for 40" TV sets).
3. Centered because is the common view of subtitles in ANY software/hardware player, and cinemas too.

I don't agree this needs significant rework of the firmware, as I know a bit of code.

Money is at the core of every business, and money comes from customers. Your point?

For sure, I would like some feedback from Philips if these corrections are possible or not, will be taken into cosideration or not.

el_lama
06-12-2012, 11:57 AM
Ok, let's than wait for Thomas or another mod answer ;)

starterz
06-21-2012, 02:27 PM
Thomas, Mark - any feedback on this? Did you at least forward the information to the developers?

starterz
08-07-2012, 02:31 PM
Philips, any feedback on this? Or we have lost the point of these forums?

Philips - Benedickte
08-07-2012, 03:14 PM
Philips, any feedback on this? Or we have lost the point of these forums?

Hi

Like Thomas said earlier in the thread , this got forwarded, but can't promise anything.

Benedickte

starterz
08-07-2012, 08:06 PM
Hi

Like Thomas said earlier in the thread , this got forwarded, but can't promise anything.

Benedickte

Ah OK, good to know Benedickte. Is it at least reasonable? Or a lot of hard coding is necessary?

hugosapinto
08-19-2012, 01:01 AM
Ah OK, good to know Benedickte. Is it at least reasonable? Or a lot of hard coding is necessary?

I'm having the same problem here, with my 2PFL3507H/12: subtitles are 'old style'; in white scenes it is very difficult to read them. A black border would be a simple addition. It would be nice a little bigger subs also, like it happens on LG models...
Will a firmware update be released soon with these improvements?

sraka1
11-07-2012, 03:49 PM
Mods, (Mark, Thomas) any updates in regard to this? I really wish I could have better subtitles.

sraka1
11-10-2012, 07:26 AM
Mods, (Mark, Thomas) any updates in regard to this? I really wish I could have better subtitles.

Bump.

black.stream
11-22-2012, 08:48 AM
I completely approve this request. Subtitles are really small, and have black background. Please, change it guys, if possible.

Regards,
black.stream

kmeleon22
11-24-2012, 09:21 AM
I'm having the same problem here, with my 2PFL3507H/12: subtitles are 'old style'; in white scenes it is very difficult to read them. A black border would be a simple addition. It would be nice a little bigger subs also, like it happens on LG models...
Will a firmware update be released soon with these improvements?
I have same problem with 32pfl5606/58. subtitles are white with no black shadow. Its a serious issue.