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duranarve
12-17-2012, 07:29 AM
Hi!
Last night I was suppose to watch a movie from my usb stick. The movie has hardcoded subs, but for some really starnge reason the subs doesnt appear when playing on my tv? Watching it on my pc there is subs on.

Any one know why this can happen

Toengel
12-17-2012, 07:30 AM
Hi,

which TV do you have, which firmware is installed?

Toengel@Alex (Toengel@Alex)

duranarve
12-17-2012, 08:59 AM
My tv is 32PFL4047T/12, and has the latest firmware. I dont really get it, how hardcoced subs can be "removed" by the tv?

Toengel
12-17-2012, 09:15 AM
Hi,

please analyse the video with the tool "mediainfo" and post the output (please switch the tool to "text mode" before).

Toengel@Alex

duranarve
12-17-2012, 09:29 AM
General
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duranarve
12-17-2012, 09:36 AM
General
Unique ID : 308961977077147894991772393194835605107 (0xE86FE98EA7BDB0D84C708B869EF6F673)
Complete name : G:\Film\Alex.Cross.2012.Custom.DKsubs.SUBLiME.x264-SD.mkv-1\Alex.Cross.2012.Custom.DKsubs.SUBLiME.x264-SD.mkv
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Duration : 1h 41mn
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Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.8
Writing library : libmkv 0.6.5

Video
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Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
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Color space : YUV
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Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
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Writing library : x264 core 120
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.20:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.10
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Forced : No
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Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio
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Format profile : LC
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 1h 41mn
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Text
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Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
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Default : Yes
Forced : No

duranarve
12-17-2012, 09:52 AM
Have you received my reply with "Mediainfo"?

Toengel
12-17-2012, 09:56 AM
Hi,

no - but you should post it here in this thread...

Toengel@Alex

duranarve
12-17-2012, 10:20 AM
I tried to do that before, but a sign on the screen said that my post had to approved by an administrator before it would be visible?

duranarve
12-17-2012, 10:22 AM
Here it is again:
General
Unique ID : 308961977077147894991772393194835605107 (0xE86FE98EA7BDB0D84C708B869EF6F673)
Complete name : G:\Film\Alex.Cross.2012.Custom.DKsubs.SUBLiME.x264-SD.mkv-1\Alex.Cross.2012.Custom.DKsubs.SUBLiME.x264-SD.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 1.15 GiB
Duration : 1h 41mn
Overall bit rate : 1 626 Kbps
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.8
Writing library : libmkv 0.6.5

Video
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Format : AVC
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Writing library : x264 core 120
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Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : Danish
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Toengel
12-17-2012, 10:43 AM
Hi,

as you can see, the subtitle is not hardcoded - it's a separat stream. Then you need to activate it manually on your TV with the subtitle button or via the option button.

Toengel@Alex

itmoldovan
12-18-2012, 09:12 PM
I have the 32PFL3807H/12 model and I can't see the subtitles when I play avi from usb.
Thanks

niggaru
01-10-2013, 07:12 AM
the name of the movie should be the same as the subtitle.


filmul terbuie sa aiba fix acelasi nume cu subtitrarea. a vezi ca extensia subtitrarii sa fie corecta.
adica: .srt sa-ti arate timpul si .sub sa-ti arate frames la care sa apara randul de subtitrare.

ni_hao
01-10-2013, 04:35 PM
After having several problems with a brand new (!) Philips TV I bought a new one. I now have a 46PFL7007k/12.
I have 2 NAS servers which are also seen by my TV. I tried to play a .mkv file with an appropiate .srt file, so with subtitles. I switch subtitles to on with the Option button, however no subtitles are shown. The name of the .srt file is of course exactly hte same as the .mkv file. When I want to play the files through my digital HD satellite receiver the subtitles are ok. So for me the problem must be in the (software) of the Philips TV. How to get the subtitles on my screen?

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ni_hao
01-11-2013, 06:33 PM
OMG, I have a DVD copied to my NAS, consisting of VOB files but also with DVD movies it is not possible to select one of the different subtitles by using Options button. Also audio files can not be choosen. Can the subtitles-issue (see also my prev. posting) be fixed a.s.a.p. thanks in advance.

itmoldovan
01-17-2013, 10:00 PM
the name of the movie should be the same as the subtitle.


filmul terbuie sa aiba fix acelasi nume cu subtitrarea. a vezi ca extensia subtitrarii sa fie corecta.
adica: .srt sa-ti arate timpul si .sub sa-ti arate frames la care sa apara randul de subtitrare.

multumesc pentru raspuns.
filmul si cu subtitrarea au acelasi nume.
ce este extensia subtitrarii?
unde pot sa vad timpul si frames unde sa apara randul de subtitrare la srt. si sub.?
trebuie sa am si fisier .srt si fisier .sub?
ca eu am doar unul care e subtitrarea..

niggaru
01-18-2013, 05:19 AM
deschide cu notepad subtitrarea si vezi daca ai:

00:03:23:789->00:03:25:120 sange pe pereti!!!

inseamna ca subtitrarea e in format subrip si ar terbui sa aiba extensia .srt

iar daca eu de forma:

012345:43124321 sange pe pereti,

inseamna ca subtitrarea e in microdvd format si ar trebui sa aiba extensia .sub

daca sunt inversate, pune extensia corecta.

chrisham
01-18-2013, 06:17 AM
Could you please write in English - this is an English-speaking forum.

This way, other people can also follow and contribute.

Thanks.

ni_hao
01-18-2013, 05:31 PM
is there something in process regarding the subtitle and audio select problems?

itmoldovan
01-20-2013, 06:13 PM
Could you please write in English - this is an English-speaking forum.

This way, other people can also follow and contribute.

Thanks.

thank you niggaru
it still not working
the film and the subtitles file have the same name
the extension is correct .srt

thank you ni_hao
yes.. my problem is that the tv does not show subtitles.
I don.t know what else to try more to make it work with subtitles

ni_hao
01-20-2013, 07:35 PM
my problem is that the tv does not show subtitles.
I don.t know what else to try more to make it work with subtitlesI think you (and I) cannt do anything because Philips has to solve it. I have - as written before - the same probllem not only with mkv files (and correct srt) but also with .vob files. Not only the subtitle but also the audio (diff. languages) can not be selected (from the vob files).

I do not like to say/write but we'd better buy a Samsung TV because Samsung fixed the problem with subtitles and languages after users complained about this.

The odd thing is that nobody, except some users react in this thread.

niggaru
02-04-2013, 10:59 AM
did you tried to activate the subtitle from the menu?

do you have subtitle button on the remote?

ni_hao
02-04-2013, 11:16 AM
Yes I have, but I use - as written in the manual - the Options button to select audio and subtitles. However it does not work witk mkv and vob files at Philips TV (at Samung TV it works)

niggaru
02-04-2013, 11:48 AM
the subtitle is external file? if it is embedded the tv won;t read it.

does it have the same name?

ni_hao
02-04-2013, 12:14 PM
Hehe I really know what I am doing. As written before it is working on my STB so the mkv file and the appr. srt file are ok. Yes of course they have the same name.

At the other hand I also tried mkv files with subtitles and languages embedded but that did not work and actually should work when you buya TV for that money.

Thirdly I also tried vob files which are at every DVD, and yes subtitles and audio are then embedded, however this is also not working at Philips TV.

I really wonder why it is not workind and - even worse - why is it not fixed in a software update.

ni_hao
03-06-2014, 06:05 AM
Questions ased sooo long ago, no progress at all to the questions I asked before...????