[Question] Why is the IP-EPG necessary for USB-Recording in 2011 series?

Dear Philips,

why do I need IP-EPG (and consequently internet connection) to record a broadcast with the 2011 TV series?

Why does it NOT work with the DVB-EPG? And why it is not possible to record a broadcast by programming the start and end time of a specific digital channel?

IP-EPG and DVB-EPG is tuner/country dependent in the "Philips world" - and consequently many users are NOT able to record a broadcast. Also the IP-EPG is extemly server performance dependent.

Not everybody has an internet connection.

Toengel@Alex

PS: @all - TimeShift does work without Internet connection

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Originally Posted by Toengel

And why it is not possible to record a broadcast by programming the start and end time of a specific digital channel?

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I think it's pretty dumb to not support this, I hope we will see it in a future firmware.

Hi,

uses who have the 6xx6 series will also have a HUGE problem. The 6xx6 series has only ONE USB PORT. So plug in your HDD, but where to plug in you WLAN stick (PTA01)??? You can only use the wired LAN, USB hub or some kind of LAN adapter (powerline, lan 2 wlan).

USABILITY = 0. Very sad :(

Toengel@Alex

Hello Philips,

why is there no reply to this question?

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Originally Posted by Toengel

Dear Philips,

why do I need IP-EPG (and consequently internet connection) to record a broadcast with the 2011 TV series?

Why does it NOT work with the DVB-EPG? And why it is not possible to record a broadcast by programming the start and end time of a specific digital channel?

IP-EPG and DVB-EPG is tuner/country dependent in the "Philips world" - and consequently many users are NOT able to record a broadcast. Also the IP-EPG is extemly server performance dependent.

Not everybody has an internet connection.

Toengel@Alex

PS: @all - TimeShift does work without Internet connection

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Hi Alex,

As IP-EPG is fully controlled by us (Philips), we have the possibility to simply mark programs for recording. DVB-EPG is provided by broadcasters, and there are differences per broadcaster, so it is difficult to align. Indeed, a functional IP-EPG is required to use the full recording functionality.

Regards,
MaTu

Hi,

thanks for your reply. But why I'm not able to schedule a program completely independent from the IP-EPG: Channel + start time + end time?

Toengel@Alex

Sorry, but this is epic fail!
Every one else (Samsung/Panasonic/Grundig/Loewe) does USB-Recording via DVB-EPG, and they have no problems. It works really fine.

Just Philips does IP-EPG (which really sucks) to fool the customers once again.

This is sad news... I have 46PFL8505H and only one USB... In other thread there was mentioned that all 2011 television from 6000 series will support timeshift. So there is no way that i can use my tv for timeshift ?

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Originally Posted by Philips

Hi Alex,

As IP-EPG is fully controlled by us (Philips), we have the possibility to simply mark programs for recording. DVB-EPG is provided by broadcasters, and there are differences per broadcaster, so it is difficult to align. Indeed, a functional IP-EPG is required to use the full recording functionality.

Regards,
MaTu

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A reply!!! Why doesnot Philips reply to the question why IP-EPG isnot supported in the Netherlands for the 2010-models with CI+ an Ziggo ?? I only heart non-issues like the certification... When is this solved?

and once again: the philips ip-epg is really crap and sucks. i have never seen such a slow solution (net-tv/ip-epg). you can’t expect that to your customers.

get your ass up! and switch to dvb-epg for usb-recording to save philips from a loss.

Yes Philips - ignore unsatisfied customers! that is the right way!

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Originally Posted by Philips

Hi Alex,

As IP-EPG is fully controlled by us (Philips), we have the possibility to simply mark programs for recording. DVB-EPG is provided by broadcasters, and there are differences per broadcaster, so it is difficult to align. Indeed, a functional IP-EPG is required to use the full recording functionality.

Regards,
MaTu

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So you (Philips) have the controll of the IP EPG absolutely. That´s a great new for me. Now I know who is the responsible of the lack of several channels in Spain.
Your IP EPG is very good, but I can´t use it because of the lack of information, Please Philips, update the channels list for Spain now that you have the controll.

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Originally Posted by Toengel

Hi,

uses who have the 6xx6 series will also have a HUGE problem. The 6xx6 series has only ONE USB PORT. So plug in your HDD, but where to plug in you WLAN stick (PTA01)??? You can only use the wired LAN, USB hub or some kind of LAN adapter (powerline, lan 2 wlan).

USABILITY = 0. Very sad :(

Toengel@Alex

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I have the same problems as Toengel, because I have a 32pfl6606D/77. User manual says that it's posible to connect multiple USB devices to USB tv's port using a hub, but I tried to connect PTA01 and 8gB USB stick using an selfpowered hub, and screen turn black.
I don't want to use a wired LAN. Any idea?

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Originally Posted by Tobi

Yes Philips - ignore unsatisfied customers! that is the right way!

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Philips has not yet given a convincing answer. When Philips does not answer is because you have ignored or something to hide, not that Philips does not know.

The real answer is firmware development incapability.
Or bad product design. But they won't admit that...

We are talking about something that exists in all major brands...
Since last year...