Your experiences with FW v0.140.48.0 for 8xx5 and 9xx5 series (2010 models)

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Originally Posted by christophexxx

For me, the picture is not so bad exept for two things :

1 - Sharpness is too high on all HDMI inputs (must be set to 3 to be equal with the TV tuner with the sharpness set to 5) ==> this problem is present on all softwares not only this one.

2- Extrem in-motion smearing especially when picture is dark.

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Hi Christophexx

Could you please confirm to me When this Extrem in-motion smearing started ( in example after last SW update)

Thank you

Benedickte

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Originally Posted by Philips - Benedickte

Hi Christophexx

Could you please confirm to me When this Extrem in-motion smearing started ( in example after last SW update)

Thank you

Benedickte

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Hi Benedickte

I confirm that this problem started after last SW update (140.48.0) It's present not only on the TV tuner, so it's not a DVB algorithm error.

Regards

Christophe

Hi,

what firmware did you had before upgrading to 140.48?

Toengel@Alex

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Originally Posted by Toengel

Hi,

what firmware did you had before upgrading to 140.48?

Toengel@Alex

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Hi Toengel

I had 140.47 and the others before since 140.37

Regards

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Originally Posted by christophexxx

Hi Toengel

I had 140.47 and the others before since 140.37

Regards

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Hi together,

i think, the most can confirm, that the problems with the Picture are started with the "Evil" 140.4xx
I)s this only my expirience? But the best for me is in the moment the 140.37. Only the Autozoom is available in 140.34 and lower. Why?? I dont know. Is nobody as i missing this function too??

Hi,

I have Autozoom with 140.47

Toengel@Alex

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Originally Posted by punschula

Hi together,

i think, the most can confirm, that the problems with the Picture are started with the "Evil" 140.4xx
I)s this only my expirience? But the best for me is in the moment the 140.37. Only the Autozoom is available in 140.34 and lower. Why?? I dont know. Is nobody as i missing this function too??

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you are right after 0.40 the picuter got bad and down grading to older firmwear it dosent help on my tv. i think there was a bug in 0.40

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Originally Posted by christophexxx

1 - Sharpness is too high on all HDMI inputs (must be set to 3 to be equal with the TV tuner with the sharpness set to 5) ==> this problem is present on all softwares not only this one.

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With what firmware version did you notice this first?... Because it definitely was not there from the beginning: 140.25 has exactly the same sharpness on all inputs and internal tuners, provided the signal is similar of course.

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Originally Posted by Toengel

Hi,

I have Autozoom with 140.47

Toengel@Alex

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Hi Alex,
i have the 52PFL8605 with external SAT Technisat HD8+ and i have tried any time to switch between the 140.34 and 140.37 and higher. But the result is every Time the same: No Autozoom with 140.37 and higher Versions. Strange... And i remember, that other Users have confirmed this, too.

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Originally Posted by Freddy

With what firmware version did you notice this first?... Because it definitely was not there from the beginning: 140.25 has exactly the same sharpness on all inputs and internal tuners, provided the signal is similar of course.

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To be precise the real problem is super resolution auto control:

- on TV tuner with HD signal ==> sharpness is in the standard because super resolution is in fact inactive
- on TV tuner with SD signal ==> the sharpness is lower than without super resolution in order to soften SD picture

- on HDMI with HD signal ==> sharpness is too high, not in the standard because super resolution is always active. ==>picture is ok for HD with super resolution off.

- on HDMI with SD signal ==> sharpness is lower (in the standard) with super resolution on and too high with super resolution off. ==> picture is OK for SD with super resolution on

software solution to resolve this problem : Even in the on position, super resolution should be inactive on HD signal and active on SD to soften the picture ==> exactly as the TV tuner

This problem was present for me from the beginning (140.37)

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Originally Posted by christophexxx

To be precise the real problem is super resolution auto control:

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This problem was present for me from the beginning (140.37)

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Thanks for that detailed description of the problem and the way Super Resolution is supposed to work.

Especially the way SR should work is interesting because, as I've mentioned a few times in another thread, on the 32" PFL9705 there is NO difference between setting SR to On or Off. I've tried it many times, with analog signals, digital signals through SCART, internal SD tuner, DVD (SD) and Blu-ray (HD) through HDMI and even files on USB: turning Super Resolution on or off makes no difference whatsoever!

The only thing I'm wondering now is, as the setting seems to do nothing on the 32PFL9705, is Super Resolution in fact always on or always off!?... Could you give me an example how I could figure that out?... Maybe with a test picture of which you know how some details should look like with Super Resolution On and Off?...

Thanks again in advance! :)

@freddy the only time i have seen sr working is on freeview hd or sky hd never seen it work on bluray and with new firmwear it dosent work as well as old firmwears

http://www.totaaltv.nl/nieuws/9560/S...rtblokken.html

Please Philips. Let us know when the 2010-models will het the full functionalluty of HbbTV.
I think you know customers are doing 10 years with a tv!!

@Freddy, if you don't see a difference SR is always off. To be ok, the picture must be analysed with a 1920*1080 patern and the white verticals bands should have same brightness on all bandwidth. Anyway if the picture is good for you, don't worry. SR on is like sharpness at level 7

Thanks for your answers guys! :)

As this discussion about Super Resolution actually belongs in my other thread, I quoted your answers there and responded to them. Please take a look at:

http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...-PFL9705/page2