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    8xx8 series recommended settings thread!

    Hi,

    Been all around trying to find the perfect settings for my Philips PFL8008S and figured why not start a topic here.

    Mainly been playing around with these two calibrations I have found from professional reviews.

    AVforums

    Picture Style:ISF Night
    Backlight Contrast:50
    Colour:50
    Sharpness:0

    Image enhancement settings
    Noise reduction: Off
    MPEG artifact reduction:Off
    Perfect Natural Motion Off
    Clear LCD:On/off
    Advanced sharpness:Off
    Perfect contrast:Off
    Dynamic backlight:Off

    ISF Expert Settings
    Light Sensor:Off
    Gamma:0
    Colour Temperature:Custom
    Custom Colour Temperature: 127, 88, 67, 0, 0, 0
    Video Contrast: 74
    Brightness: 50
    Colour Control: Hue 0 -1 0 0 0 -1,
    Saturation 2 3 2 2 2 0
    FlatpanelsHD

    Picture profile: ISF Night
    Backlight Contrast: 39
    Color : 50
    Sharpness: 0

    Image enhancement settings
    Noise reduction: Off
    MPEG artifact reduction:Off
    Perfect Natural Motion Off
    Clear LCD:On/off
    Advanced sharpness:Off
    Perfect contrast:Off
    Dynamic backlight:Off

    ISF Expert Settings
    Light sensor: On/Off
    Gamma: 0
    Color temperature: Custom
    Video contrast: 90
    Brightness: 50
    Custom Colour Temperature: 126, 79, 76,0 ,0 ,0
    Both of these settings deliver a good base for natural image.

    I have noticed that in Game / PC mode these calibrations don't work so well. Because black levels are crushed and overall image quality is much reduced when PC or Game mode is activated. I highly recommend upping your Brightness settings if using game/pc modes at least to: 65. It really helps with the color banding and shadow detail issues these modes have.

    (Or open this site with your PC or Console browser and up the brightness setting until all the squares become visible, not bright, but just visible Lagom - Black level test. (also see much difference there is with game/pc mode disabled and enabled / banding etc. Bit dissapointing))

    Also if you just use PC as HTPC for movies and music, I would not even enable PC mode, as input-lag isn't really a concern there and it reduces image quality very much.

    Please share more settings and discussion to this thread.

    Very interested in best settings for console gaming. (PS3 and in a month PS4 )
    Last edited by antti-la; 10-18-2013 at 12:00 PM.

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    People don't seem to be very keen sharing on settings and experiences here. Too bad :/

    I have done some further investigating with Game and PC modes, with conclusion that they seem to be essentially very same. So you do not get better input lag with PC mode, like in Samsung TV's. Both result input lag of ~50ms no matter what settings you use. Without these modes enabled this tv gets a whoopping ~125ms of input lag, that's very high.

    Here's settings I have fine tuned from the ones mentioned earlier.

    For tv and movies (htpc)
    Picture profile: ISF Night
    Backlight Contrast: 50
    Color : 50
    Sharpness: 1

    Image enhancement settings
    Noise reduction: Off
    MPEG artifact reduction:Off
    Perfect Natural Motion Off
    Clear LCD:On
    Advanced sharpness:Off
    Perfect contrast:Off
    Dynamic backlight: standard

    ISF Expert Settings
    Light sensor: Off
    Gamma: 0
    Color temperature: Custom
    Video contrast: 90
    Brightness: 50
    Custom Colour Temperature: 126, 88, 70,0 ,0 ,0
    Colour Control: Hue 0 -1 0 0 0 -1,
    Saturation 2 3 2 2 2 0

    Game/PC mode: disabled

    For HD videogame consoles like PS3 and Xbox360
    Picture profile: ISF Night
    Backlight Contrast: 50
    Color : 50
    Sharpness: 0

    Image enhancement settings
    Noise reduction: Off
    MPEG artifact reduction:Off
    Perfect Natural Motion Off
    Clear LCD:On
    Advanced sharpness:Off
    Perfect contrast:Off
    Dynamic backlight: standard

    ISF Expert Settings
    Light sensor: Off
    Gamma: 0
    Color temperature: Custom
    Video contrast: 90
    Brightness: 60
    Custom Colour Temperature: 126, 88, 68,0 ,0 ,0
    Colour Control: Hue 0 -1 0 0 0 -1,
    Saturation 2 3 2 2 2 0

    Game mode enabled

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    Here are my settings that I use for both DVB-C TV and HD content (blu-ray and media player). I have turned the dynamic backlight off completely, since I feel it is way too invasive in dark scenes, really crushing the blacks.

    I also changed the custom color temperature to add some more blue, because I feel the default is too yellowish.

    The only Perfect Pixel HD options I use are Clear LCD and Perfect Contrast. I feel setting Perfect Contrast to Minimum gives me an image that "pops" just a bit more.

    Picture profile: Personal
    Backlight Contrast: 44
    Color : 52
    Sharpness: 4 for DVB-C / 3 for blu-ray & media player

    Image enhancement settings
    Noise reduction: Off
    MPEG artifact reduction:Off
    Perfect Natural Motion Off
    Clear LCD:On
    Advanced sharpness:Off
    Perfect contrast:Minimum
    Dynamic backlight: Off

    Advanced Settings
    Light sensor: Off
    Gamma: +1
    Color temperature: Custom
    Video contrast: 100
    Brightness: 54
    Custom Colour Temperature: 110, 104, 106,2 ,2 ,-2

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    These are the settings I use for digital tv (ziggo CI+) and movies (HTPC):

    Picture profile: ISF Night
    Contrast Backlight: 45
    Color: 53
    Sharpness: 1
    Noise reduction: Off
    MPEG artifact reduction: Off

    Perfect Pixel HD settings
    Perfect Natural Motion: Off
    Clear LCD: Off
    Advanced sharpness: Off
    Perfect contrast: Off
    Dynamic backlight: Best picture

    ISF Expert Settings
    Light sensor: Off
    Gamma: +1
    Colour temperature: Custom
    Custom colour temperature: Normal / 127, 108, 109,0 ,0 ,0
    Video contrast: 90
    Brightness: 50
    Colour Control: Hue 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    Saturation 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    Last edited by JoopSand; 01-31-2014 at 09:46 AM.

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    Firmware updates change behavior of the picture settings and therefore settings may not result "calibrated" picture for you anymore.

    I still recommend using AVforums calibration that can be found on the first post for pretty much any use case or source. It still works wonders for a good base. From there on you can tweak the settings a bit for your own likings.

    With current firmware-series (173) there have been a lot of changes on how dynamic backlight function works. Hopefully it will get fixed in the future firmware updates, to the way it used to be

    At the moment settings standard and best picture result exactly the same kind of behavior, which must be some sort of strange bug. Because what's the point of having different options if the output is exactly the same.

    (Idea for developer: Just introduce Eco, Min, Med, Max options for this. It's much more clear than "best picture" or "standard".)

    What this does, is that is very aggressively changes brightness and backlight contrast settings based on content played on the screen. This allows couple of benefits. It hides the mura-effects / clouding etc. on dark scenes and black gets really black. However sometimes it does it so aggressively that you start paying too much attention to it how to brightness keeps fluctuating constantly, white subtitles clearly turns grey etc.

    Earlier firmware (171) versions had the dynamic backlight setting standard with much more subtle changes. It was more much more subtle and didin't go in to the end of spectrums.

    Current way the option is handled is especially problematic when viewing movies with narrow aspect ratio. TV interprets the black bars as "darker" image, so it's almost constantly detecting that the scene is "dark" and dropping the backlight which can result a too dim image, especially for scenes that are normal lighting (not bright, nor black)

    Also game mode has gotten better (fw 173+), so no need to bump up the brightness so much anymore.
    Last edited by antti-la; 02-27-2014 at 08:25 AM.

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    At the request of MauriceW, here are my calibration settings (using Chromapure and a X-Rite Display 3 Pro Colorimeter - see http://chromapure.com ).

    Picture Style:ISF Night (will work for ISF Day as well of course)
    Backlight Contrast:30
    Colour:50
    Sharpness:0

    Image enhancement settings
    Noise reduction: Off
    MPEG artifact reduction:Off
    Perfect Natural Motion Off
    Clear LCD:On
    Advanced sharpness:Off
    Perfect contrast:Off
    Dynamic backlight:Off

    ISF Expert Settings
    Light Sensor:Off
    Gamma:0
    Colour Temperature:Custom
    Custom Colour Temperature: 127, 90, 67, 0, 0, -2
    Video Contrast: 90
    Brightness: 50
    Colour Control: Hue 0 0 0 1 0 1,
    Saturation 0 3 1 1 0 0

    On my tv these settings give me a gray scale that has deltaE errors well below 2 from 20 ire and up and a nearly flat 2.2 gamma across the range (getting rid of the bump at 10 ire that the avforums reviewer mentions in his review). Luminance for 0 ire (the black level) is at 0.05 cd/m2 and 121 cd/m2 at 100 ire. Colour gamut: errors for primaries and secondaries are all below 1 except for red which I could get perfect at 100 ire but it compromised accuracy at lower ires so I left it alone.

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    Thanks for your input DannyN. Nice to have another calibrated setup around.

    As we can see these calibrated settings from AVforums, FlatpanelsHD and DannyN's all seem to be pretty close up to each other. So you will most likely get your at least pretty damn close to calibrated when you start with any of these values or count averages of them and start from that.

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    Hi guys!

    I think this thread is fantastic and I have already made it a sticky some time ago

    I'm happy to leave it here in this topic as it's makes sense to have it here. But if you want me to move it to the Experience & Insights topic section, just let me know.
    I can move it and leave a permanent re-direct in this section too (short cut).

    Up to you!

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