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    Question Connecting Philips TV Digital Optical OUT with HTS

    Hi Philips / forum users,

    I am planning on buying the Philips 55PFL7008K TV. But before I decide to buy it, I have an important question about the Digital Optical OUT of this TV. I can only attach my Home Theater System to the TV using the Optical OUT connection (TOSlink). Because my HTS does not have any HDMI ins/outs.

    My question is: Will this Philips TV sent out DD 5.1 signal/sound to my Home Theater System for all devices connected to the TV by HDMI?

    So for example:
    BLU RAY > HDMI IN > TV
    TV > OPTICAL OUT > HTS
    Will I have DD 5.1 signal on my HTS?

    Or:
    PLAYSTATION > HDMI IN > TV
    TV > OPTICAL OUT > HTS
    Will I have DD 5.1 signal on my HTS?

    It might be usefull to post a list of ALL Philips TV's supporting this.

    Thanks.

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    Hi,

    BD/PS->HDMI->TV->HDMI->HTS
    BD/PS->HDMI->TV->SPDIF->HTS

    1:
    DD5.1 from BD/PS will be received on HTS as DD5.1
    2:
    DTS from BD/PS will be received on HTS as "digital stereo 2.0" when BD/PS is capable of downmixing DTS to 2.0 LPCM (if BD or PS is not capable of downmixing to 2.0, the TV and HTS will be silent)

    TV-Tuner->HDMI-HTS
    TV-Tuner->SPDIF-HTS
    1:
    DD5.1 from TV-Tuner will be received on HTS as DD5.1, if "multichannel" is set up in TV settings

    Toengel@Alex

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    Hi,

    Thanks for the quick reply.

    My HTS only supports Dolby Digital 5.1, no DTS (sad but true).

    So just to be clear, the answer to my question is YES this TV supports:
    HDMI devices (DD 5.1) > HDMI > TV > SPDIF > HTS receives the DD5.1 signal

    And this works for ALL HDMI ports on the TV right? Because my plan is to attach all my HDMI devices to my TV. And then just attach 1 optical cable from the TV (SPDIF output) to my HTS (SPDIF input) for DD 5.1 sound.


    Thanks.
    Last edited by rash; 11-30-2013 at 08:06 PM.

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    Hi,

    yes - but you should set up all HDMI-Input devices to "BITSTREAM"...

    Toengel@Alex

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    Hi,

    I've bought the 55PFL7008K TV today.

    These are the settings that I've performed:
    - I've set my Philips Blu Ray player audio to "HDMI > BITSTREAM"
    - I've set my HD-TV Decoder (UPC Horizon box) audio output DD 5.1
    - I've set my TV audio output to MULTICHANNEL and my TV internal speakers are OFF

    - When I press INFO button with Blu Ray > Sound: Dolby stereo ??
    - When I press INFO button with HD-TV > Sound: Dolby Digital

    And both times, I only get Dolby Digital 2.0 on my HTS (SPDIF IN, connected to SPDIF OUT on TV).

    What am I doing wrong?
    Last edited by rash; 12-03-2013 at 01:50 PM.

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    Hi,

    what are you playing on your Blu-ray? Make sure, it's a DD5.1 track.

    Make sure the current broadcast on UPC has DD5.1.

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    Hi,

    These are the settings I've tried:

    - USB stick with DD 5.1 track > USB port > TV > SPDIF > HTS > DOLBY DIGITAL 5.1

    - BLU RAY with DD 5.1 track (HDMI audio: BITSTREAM) > HDMI > TV > SPDIF > HTS > Dolby Digital 2.0

    - BLU RAY with DD 5.1 track (HDMI audio: AUTO) > HDMI > TV > SPDIF > HTS > Dolby Digital 2.0

    - HD-TV with DD 5.1 channel (UPC BOX, HDMI audio ON, Dolby AC-3 output ON) > HDMI > TV > SPDIF > HTS > Dolby Digital 2.0

    So still I have no DD5.1 from HDMI > SPDIF. I've also tried another HDMI cable (Philips brand), but that does not help either. Are there specific type of HDMI cables you need for this ?? I've also tried putting the Blu Ray in another HDMI port, that doesn't help either.

    I am wondering if this TV is able to do this. Is anyone that has this type TV (7008k) and able to get this working?
    Last edited by rash; 12-04-2013 at 11:54 AM.

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    Hi,

    can you please try a DVD with DD5.1 on your Blu-ray player?

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    Hi,

    I tried 2 different DVD's with 5.1 track, but same issue.

    So basically:
    - USB movie with 5.1 sound > TV: Dolby Digital, HTS: DD 5.1 >> OK !

    - PHILIPS BLU RAY (Blu Ray or DVD movie with 5.1 track) > TV: Dolby stereo, HTS: DD2.0 >> NOT OK

    - HD-TV BOX channel with 5.1 > TV: Dolby Digital, HTS: DD 2.0 >> NOT OK

    It seems like the TV is transforming all HDMI 5.1 inputs to 2.0... but since the USB works, I am wondering if it's not a software issue with the Philips TV?? I can't think of other settings that I can change to make this work??

    Tomorrow or this weekend I will try playing a movie on my laptop (with 5.1 track) and connecting the laptop by HDMI to the TV. To see if that will work.
    Last edited by rash; 12-05-2013 at 08:35 PM.

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    Hi,

    what Philips BDP do you have exactly?

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    Hi,

    I have the Philips BDP 2930 player, so I tried that one. I've also tried my dad's Philips BDP 7500/B2, but same issue. No DD5.1 to my TV and also not to my HTS (which is logical, because first the TV has to get DD5.1 in order to sent it to the HTS).

    Both players are set to HDMI OUT: BITSTREAM. I've also checked the firmware's, both have the last firmware. But still the TV says "SOUND: Dolby stereo". I've tried different DVD's and Blu Ray's. Also I've tried different HDMI cables. And different HDMI ports (on the back of the TV). Nothing helps!

    I'm really starting to think that there is something wrong with the software of the TV. I mean, 2 Blu Ray players that are not OK?

    I hope someone with this exact TV can verify if this works or not.
    Last edited by rash; 12-08-2013 at 01:06 PM.

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    Is there maybe someone from Philips that can test / verify this?
    - If HDMI ports on the 55PFL7008K TV support DD5.1 pass trough the Digital Optical OUT?
    - And how is it possible that 2 Philips Blu Ray players only give "Dolby stereo" input to the TV?

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    Hi,

    some of the older BDPs have "a bug" that they don't transmit DD5.1 - even if they could...

    Can you maybe test with a notebook?

    Toengel@Alex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toengel View Post
    Hi,

    BD/PS->HDMI->TV->HDMI->HTS
    BD/PS->HDMI->TV->SPDIF->HTS

    1:
    DD5.1 from BD/PS will be received on HTS as DD5.1
    2:
    DTS from BD/PS will be received on HTS as "digital stereo 2.0" when BD/PS is capable of downmixing DTS to 2.0 LPCM (if BD or PS is not capable of downmixing to 2.0, the TV and HTS will be silent)

    TV-Tuner->HDMI-HTS
    TV-Tuner->SPDIF-HTS
    1:
    DD5.1 from TV-Tuner will be received on HTS as DD5.1, if "multichannel" is set up in TV settings

    Toengel@Alex
    I am considering a Philips 55PFL4508T. Can you please repeat this answer for the 55PFL4508T? I need the TV to be able to output 5.1 sound over SP/DIF or Toslink digital out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toengel View Post
    Hi,

    some of the older BDPs have "a bug" that they don't transmit DD5.1 - even if they could...

    Can you maybe test with a notebook?

    Toengel@Alex
    So I've tried 2 different laptops (1 Acer, 1 Samsung), connected by HDMI. And with both laptops I can only output stereo sound to the TV (and therefor the HTS will ofcourse only play stereo as well). So no DD5.1 there. I've asked around and the problem with laptops is, when you connect your laptop to your TV, the TV sends a "message" to your laptop saying "i only support stereo". Therefor the laptop will only output stereo through HDMI to the TV. When you connect your laptop (by HDMI) to a HTS with HDMI, you will be able to choose 5.1 (or even 7.1) output on your laptop. So the problem is (again) the TV.

    So summary for now: I've tried 2 Philips Blu Ray players, 2 laptops, 1 HD-TV box, all connected by HDMI and with all these devices NO DD5.1 through my DIGITAL OUT. The only thing that works for now is a USB stick...

    Btw, how is it possible that Philips brings out Blu Ray players unable to output 5.1 ?!

    Any other ideas anyone? I am seriously thinking of returning the TV... unless Philips can fix this issue by an update or so? Or is it an hardware issue? I don't know...

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