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    Thumbs up Technical feedback - FW v000.173.046.000 (173.46) - for 6/7/8/9xx8 series - 2013

    Hi!

    The new FW is now live. For details please see here:
    6xx8: http://philips.to/1eQiefw
    7xx8: http://philips.to/1gpptJK
    8xx8: http://philips.to/MHSN4Z
    9xx8: http://philips.to/1g2jtZ6

    This thread is for technical feedback only. For other discussions please post in the related discussion thread. "Off topic" posts regarding the firmware will be moved to the discussion thread.

    Important:
    After upgrading your TV, it is necessary to perform a "cold start". This means that, after the TV is running again (after the update), shut down the TV, wait 1 minute (till all components are shut down), and unplug the TV from the mains (pull power cord) for 2 minutes before starting again.

    Please use the following template in this thread:

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    TV Model: xxPFLxxxx (please fill in)
    Previous Firmware: xx.xx (please fill in)

    Positive:
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    Negative:
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    Hi ina,

    I installed this FW yesterday night. Here is my feedback.

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    TV Model: 55PFL7108
    Previous Firmware: 173.45

    Positive:
    + faster menu. Nearly acceptable
    + no more sound vs image sync issue on digital TV
    +

    Negative:
    - still having micro sound cuts when using the SPDiF out (optical) in multichannel mode. No 5.1 usage in that case. Only stereo works fine.
    - no feedback of any kind from Philips engineers to my multiple inquiries (by phone and by forum)
    -
    ==========================

    Please forward this post to the technical guys. I would appreciate a little more consideration from Philips.

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    TV Model: 55PFL8008S
    Previous Firmware: 173.045

    Positive:
    + 5px pixel shift issue fixed on game/pc modes
    + Banding issues when viewing gradients on game/pc modes has gotten better, although still not perfect. However I guess it's not possible to get everything with these modes enabled.
    + Input lag on game/pc mode has gotten better. I measured constant input lag of 33ms in comparison with CRT monitor with high shutter speed camera setup. I have done similar comparison with the same setup on earlier firmwares resulting constant input lag of 48ms.

    So very good news for gamers.

    Negative:
    - Netflix application still forces picture settings to "standard". I would so much like to use my calibrated settings with this application. Is this something you guys can fix, or should we contact Netflix directly?
    - As always, the overall slowness of GUI when browsing channels, smartTV, settings etc. should get fixed. Forget making fancy graphics and animations. Just make it simple as possible to make it work snappier.

    Overall I'm happy with the new firmware. Thanks guys!
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    TV Model: 42PFL6008
    Previous Firmware: 173.45

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    Negative:
    - Youtube 3D not working after one video is played. The second has major artefacts.
    - AutoFill on 4:3 SD channels working weird and inconsistent on DVB-C. When subtitles are present and half of the channel logo is in the black upper bar. The TV's Autofill cuts all the logo (with part of the usable picture) and enlarges the bottom black bar. (See pictures for more info)
    1 - Original picture when No autofill is applied
    2 - Weird autofill applied

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    The problem occurs on random basis and sometimes the Autofill works as intended and cuts the black bar.
    Last edited by surenz; 02-14-2014 at 01:21 PM. Reason: add one more negative point

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    ============================
    TV Model: 55PFL7008 (please fill in)
    Previous Firmware: 173.46(please fill in)


    Positive:
    + menu speed improvement
    + spdif sound drops fixed
    +


    Negative:
    - artefacts if Picture Perfect is on
    - ipad/iPhone dlna youtube streaming not working (Since 173.43 Or earlier)

    - Tv guide from internet not working - Black screen
    - Lack of picture preview in tv guide from broadcast (Since begining)
    - subtitle font too small (Since begining)
    more soon.



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    TV Model: 40PFL8008K
    Previous Firmware: 173.045

    Positive:
    + Audio sync issue fixed when watching DVB-C with Dolby Digital stream through CI+ module

    Negative:

    - Audio sync issue NOT fixed when watching DVB-C with Dolby Digital stream through external decoder (Humax 5050C) connected to HDMI 1

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    TV Model: 46PFL8008k
    Previous Firmware: 176.045

    Positive:
    + Fixed audio sync bug (only tested with TV audio)

    Negative:
    - Still gaps in EPG ("channel doesn't provide information" in the beginning, now just blank gaps between programs) @ Ziggo

    - Clear LCD only works in conjunction with Perfect Natural Motion
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    Last edited by chrissey123; 02-18-2014 at 12:02 PM. Reason: Epg problems got worse

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    TV Model: 40PFL8008S/12
    Previous Firmware: v000.173.045.000 (173.45)

    Positive:
    + TV guide from internet started to work... (also the Link Device finally works and is a nice feature)

    Negative:
    - TV restarts randomly, when watching digital channels, if a USB storage device is connected
    - Menu very slow (I think the improvement everyone sees is due to Motion Plus effect (adding frames), but is not faster, just the animation smoother)
    - Smart TV very slow and sometimes TV crashes
    - YouTube app very slow and 3D behavior weird
    - No subtitles over DLNA
    - glares/clouding in the corners if Dynamic Backlight is off or in 3D
    - TV guide from internet is not synced or is in another language
    - Internet connection slow (what are the specs for the network adapter?)
    - Miracast connection not established, after entering the 8 digit code on the PC; TV just shows the code and after the 2 minutes pass, nothing happens and the TV is not listed in the devices list anymore, until restart
    - Miracast restricted to 720p (not fw related)
    - After a time with the TV idle (but ON), when pressing the Volume buttons on the remote, the channel changes
    ============================

    Please mind our dissatisfaction, Philips!
    Last edited by Cristian; 02-27-2014 at 10:18 AM. Reason: added info

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    ============================
    TV Model: 42PFL7008 (please fill in)
    Previous Firmware: 173.45 (please fill in)

    Positive:
    + still starts and works at least as tv

    Negative:
    - Smart apps - maybe only YouTube works (sometimes starts only from second, third time), all others - either not starts, or trying to start brings to SMART main screen back.
    curson control by remote gestures - hmm, worked maybe only once, after I never were able to use it, had to use arrow buttons on remote
    but ok, this function not most needed for me
    - DLNA client. time from time (once per week, sometimes once per 2 weeks) DNLA client on tv do not sees DLNA servers anymore, and suggests kind of connection wizard.
    Only solution - plug of from power and plug back, turn-off by remote do not helps
    - most annoying - quite often after viewing .mkv type file from network, tv hangs, do not responds to any remote button.
    here I've captured short movies how it behaves
    https://drive.google.com/folderview?...HM&usp=sharing

    only one solution - plug off from power
    - one day TV started to swith off on each IPTV external mediabox remote click (trying to change tv channel). Explanation for clearance - tv reacted to remote of iptv media box, not on tv remote
    cable unplug needed

    -I am not talking about slow and struggling GUI - if only this would be problem, then it would be fine. but it should be shame for Philips as for brand, to have such a issues for such class and price range tv's...

    Addition for new ...046... FW installation new problem(s) found:
    - in SMART screen, after scrolling via apps, and clicking to start, tv screen becomes black with sound running of current channel. Needs to press either BACK button or SMART button on remote to get something shown.
    This black screen I were able "successfully" reproduce several times in 5 minutes...
    I really can't understand, how are selecting what to fix, and what QA doing? Are you making quality tests at all?!
    P.s. after FW installation I kept >2 min unplugged power cable

    Addition 2014.02.18 for new QF2EU-0.173.46.0:
    - still same issue with *.mkv via network (like in my provided videos) - tv completely frozen, do not reacts on any remote button, only tv led blinking, and on left side of screen box visible.
    Helps only unplug from power.
    For more details - it happens with random mkv files... mkv files contains FHD 1080p 3D videos
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    TV Model: 47PFL6158k/12
    Previous Firmware: 173.45

    Positive:
    + TV menus speed improved a bit (almost acceptable)

    Negative:
    - Smart TV menu still too slow
    - Still no way of changing subtitle size (or at least having it fixed but bigger (50% bigger))
    - During mirroring my smart phone into the television, some artifacts are visible (is it because of my phone or TV?)
    - PLEASE make the menus/GUI smooth! Forget the effects, transparencies, ... Just make it clean, simple and smooth! If you achieve this point your device will worth 50% more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCBastosPortela View Post
    ============================
    TV Model: 47PFL6158k/12
    Previous Firmware: 173.45

    Positive:
    + TV menus speed improved a bit (almost acceptable)

    Negative:
    - Smart TV menu still too slow
    - Still no way of changing subtitle size (or at least having it fixed but bigger (50% bigger))
    - During mirroring my smart phone into the television, some artifacts are visible (is it because of my phone or TV?)
    - PLEASE make the menus/GUI smooth! Forget the effects, transparencies, ... Just make it clean, simple and smooth! If you achieve this point your device will worth 50% more!
    ============================
    After trying a little bit more the TV I should add...

    ============================
    TV Model: 47PFL6158k/12
    Previous Firmware: 173.45

    Positive:
    +

    Negative:
    - After rebooting my Internet modem/wireless router, my television notified the loss of connection and blocked. I couldn't make any operation, not even closing by remote. I had to push the cord from the mains;
    - While I was listening music in http://html5.grooveshark.com the mouse pointer disappears, letting me unable to use it;
    - Still while listening music in http://html5.grooveshark.com the TV shut down by it self!
    ============================

    Please, fix the mouse bug. It's annoying...

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    TV Model: 47PFL6008
    Previous Firmware: 173.45

    Positive:
    +slightly faster in menus but still way sluggish

    Negative:


    -random reboots when pressing any key on the remote.

    -NO 5.1 surround sound in netflix nor viaplay or other smart-tv functions.

    -some channels with teletext drops the text at comercial breaks and wont come back until you force the subtiles from menu.

    -ambilight when centerd campfire on picture it and black all arround it dims down to allmost zero and then after 2-3secconds it turns to bright red, not even close to fire colour.

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    TV Model:42 PFL 6008s

    Previous Firmware: 173.45


    Positive:
    + TV menus speed improved a bit (Now tv is not too bad,but assistence also change me the mainboard)


    Negative:
    - The most negative (for me ) in this tv with all firmware I tryed is the connection to my amplifier Tehcnics 5.1 ,with optical audio,because I have interruptions in the sound ( only in multichannel option dolby digital) .This happen with hard disk ,usb pen, freeview HD channel,and youtube from smart tv service. The strange is that if I connect the same hard disk to a blu ray player, and I ear the sound from the tv 's optical output the sound is good. I came back to the Philips assistence and They tell me that maybe is a problem of incompatible bitrate. Is it a bug in the firm?

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    TV Model: 55PFL7108S/12
    Previous Firmware: 173.45

    Positive:
    + Game mode pixel shift issue is fixed

    Negative:
    - TV restarts itself randomly every 1-3 days
    - HDMI link is lost when tv is in standby, causing desktop windows switching places on pc. This hasn't happened on any previous TV I've had

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    TV Model: 47PFL7008
    Previous Firmware: 173.45

    Positive:
    + menu is slightly faster

    Negative:
    - menu us awful slow when playing over DLNA or recorded tv broadcast. Example of steps to reproduce: just Pause TV and try to change picture settings
    - HDMI link is lost when tv is in standby, causing desktop windows switching places on pc. This hasn't happened on any previous TV I've had
    - updating over the LAN not working - TV is freezed on Verify step. Only possible option is to update via USB (possibly is fixed but will know only when the next firware released to update, was present during last 2 updates)

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