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    Thumbs up Experience thread - FW v000.173.046.000 (173.46) - for 6xx8 Series - 2013

    Hi,

    The new FW is live. For technical feedback (pos. and neg. points) please post here:
    http://philips.to/1nrLDxn

    This thread is for details and discussions.
    This FW is applicable to EU models only.

    IMPORTANT:
    After upgrading your TV, it is necessary to perform a "cold start". This means that, after the TV is running again (after the update), shut down the TV, wait 1 minute (till all components are shut down), and unplug the TV from the mains (pull power cord) for 2 minutes before starting again.

    Changelog:


    QF2EU-0.173.46.0 (Date published: 2014-02-10)

    • Solution for picture moves 5 pixel right when in PC/ Game mode.
    • Solution on the level of the infobar on Bulgarian cable. (Blizoo operator).
    • Solution about HBBTV (through the red button) that gives a black screen instead of video content provided by the broadcast.
    • Improvements for Smart TV.
    • Improvements in Russia text database.
    • Improvements in audio/video sync in digital broadcast.
    • Improvements in Video on demand applications (Ukraine and Slovenia)


    QF2EU-0.173.45.0 (Date published: 2014-01-29)

    • Improvement on picture level for the 60PFL8708S (Elevation set)


    QF2EU-0.173.44.0 (Date published: 2013-12-10)

    • Solution for half of the HD subtitles that are not displayed.
    • Unicable implementation shall support a user selected LO frequency.
    • Introduction of DVB-T profile full in case of Bulgaria.
    • Introduction Chinese language in Fusion and also (again) on Android.
    • Solution for Telenet, during wintertime clock is still according summer time (+ 1 hour).
    • Solution about "You have connected a CAM" osd is seen coming up while navigating through TV Guide.
    • Improvement with Ambilight Hue set up configured.
    • Solution to avoid that during installation you gets failure for Romania country, when selecting "Other" as Operator.
    • Solution so that Sky Bundesliga SD and Sky Select SD services shall always be installed.


    QF2EU-0.173.42.0 (Date published: 2013-11-20)

    • Solution for Take Away Display (TAD) when there are 3 or more TVís in the network using IOS7.
    • Solution for 3D not available on YouTube.
    • Solution for Skype - Handling of Microsoft ID.
    • Solution for Ambilight flicker in 24Hz Videos (to be verified)
    • Solution for TV crashing while Using Ambilight+Hue App


    QF2EU-0.171.56.0 (Date published: 2013-09-05)

    • Improvements in quick startup implementation.
    • Solution for screen edges reset.


    QF2EU-0.171.51.0 (Date published: 2013-07-11)

    • Solution to use Netflix.
    • Solution regarding installation issue in Switzerland.
    • Solution regarding MHP application.


    QF2EU_0.171.49.0 (Date published: 2013-07-05)

    • Enabling DTS for 7000/8000/9000
    • Wifi smart screen for Android devices (requires Philips MyRemote app)
    • New application Multi Room TV watching.
    • New version of YouTubeLeanBack.
    • Improvement of the MyRemote App at the level of the TV-guide and control on Smart Phones.
    • Improvement about installation Czech UPC cable.
    • Improvement about BBC i-player movies not working.
    • Improvement to have the favourite channels on top via IP-EPG.
    • Improvement for the Social TV app.
    • Improvement about the crackling/loud plopping noise when switching on HDMI equipment.
    • Improvement for the remote control pairing in virgin mode.
    • Improvement to avoid to have only vertical lines but to have picture at startup.
    • Improvement to avoid reboots when playing 3D via Blu-ray or Astra 3D.
    • Improvement to get positive DVB-S Unicable installation with Technisat equipment.


    QF2EU_0.68.18.0 (Date published: 2013-04-12)

    • Solution about consistent behaviour of the EXIT key.
    • Home screen adaptation for Germany. (Kabel/Antennen Fernsehen)
    • Hebrew text disabled in Now en Next + 8 days EPG. (Mainly solved for Israel market)
    • Improvement stability behaviour when starting up from HDMI source.
    • Live TXT subtitles from broadcast no longer shown during playback of a recording without
    • BBC iPlayer, video and radio program is functioning again.
    • Solution about sometimes no connection to Philips Smart TV portal during virgin installation.


    Best regards,
    Ina
    Last edited by Philips - Ina; 02-11-2014 at 12:21 PM. Reason: Formatting
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    Ina, can you please share Philips position about DTS for 6xx8 series.

    People are wondering and nagging around and there is no official answer from YOU.

    With every update we wait these magic words: "DTS ENABLED" but there is only silence.

    So please let us know if there is any consideration in your HQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pashkustva View Post
    Ina, can you please share Philips position about DTS for 6xx8 series.

    People are wondering and nagging around and there is no official answer from YOU.

    With every update we wait these magic words: "DTS ENABLED" but there is only silence.

    So please let us know if there is any consideration in your HQ.
    Lets hope they don't dissapoint us. Let's keep the fingers crossed!!!

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    Please make a NO LAG MENU AND SMART TV . Is philips not a korean....please don't shame the brand.

    The menu is so jerky , even if i change channels the lag is big . Do something good, make us proud of your job.

    Thank's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarnimo View Post
    Lets hope they don't dissapoint us. Let's keep the fingers crossed!!!
    Jarnimo,

    Ina is not answering this question on purpose ))

    I have asked it in private and in couple topics, but still no answer.

    Or maybe it is automatically set do not shot any messages containing letters DTS ))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pashkustva View Post
    Jarnimo,

    Ina is not answering this question on purpose ))

    I have asked it in private and in couple topics, but still no answer.

    Or maybe it is automatically set do not shot any messages containing letters DTS ))
    Hi,

    Yes, it seems like they don't want to react any messages that contain "DTS for the 6xx8 series".

    There is one forum member called -toengel@alex- and it seems like he knows a lot more about the Philips TV's than usual customers know. He told in one or two topics that Philips won't enable DTS sound for these models because of a marketing reason. I absoluty don't want to disrespect toengel@alex' knowledge, but in this case i hope he is wrong and Philips will enable soon the DTS function!!!!

    Untill now we didn't have an offical statement from Philips about DTS for the 6xx8 series.
    Last edited by Jarnimo; 02-14-2014 at 08:57 AM.

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    Hi,

    DTS was working on 6xx8 with one leaked firmware version. But the next official firmware does not show any DTS support. So, we know, DTS is working on 6xx8 but it's not enabled.

    Toengel@Alex

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    Hi all,

    There appears to be some misinformation going around the forum. Although it has been addressed several times in the past throughout the forum, the same question keeps coming back.

    So to dispel this confusion I will set the record straight regarding DTS on the 6xx8 devices again:


    DTS is not and will not be supported on the 6xx8 models.


    DTS has never been intended nor advertised to be supported on this series. This decision can and will not be addressed in the future.

    DTS is only supported on the 7xx8, 8xx8 and 9xx8 series (2013).



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    Ina,
    Thanks for answer. Finally we have something firm to discuss about.

    I have another one:
    How it could be that such NICE TV does not have such basic option? As cheaper models have it.

    Now I can really blame myself for not reading full specs of every TV when I was looking which one to buy.

    You must agree that lots of customers feel deceived as they did not check SPECIFICALLY about one important feature - DTS.

    If i knew before my purchase - I would have bought Samsung instead.(as could not image about such possible flaw in newest middle range TVs). My bad.

    So, last question for PHILIPS company.
    ARE YOU CUSTOMER ORIENTATED OR A ONE TIME GAIN COMPANY.
    There is a chance for Philips so stand out an say that they can manage to deliver what their customers need OR just silently say - "YOU SCREWED, get along. Next time buy more expensive TV"

    Please prove me wrong but TV's hardware is capable and there is just model specific software limitations.

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    It is a pity that Phillips can not keep up with the standards of other companies. For years I was loyal to this firm and I did not expect that to fail. When buying 47PFL6008 not noticed it does not have DTS, I did not know at all what it is. It turned out that what I need is DTS and for a similar price or even less I could buy a TV with DTS another firm. The proposal to change the company suggests itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afi View Post
    It is a pity that Phillips can not keep up with the standards of other companies. For years I was loyal to this firm and I did not expect that to fail. When buying 47PFL6008 not noticed it does not have DTS, I did not know at all what it is. It turned out that what I need is DTS and for a similar price or even less I could buy a TV with DTS another firm. The proposal to change the company suggests itself.
    Same to me, didn't noticed about the DTS sound. But the 6008 is a nice Tv. It would be much nicer with DTS !! Unfortunately we can't make anything!

    The crazy thing about this TV is that there is NO hardware limitation! Just a limtitation because people don't want to activate it!

    Thanks to every forum member for requesting DTS support
    for this model.

    Thanks, Ina for your answer - it's not your fault!!
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    Following Jarnimo,

    Ina what we want from you is just to forward our concerns to your managers. Just to inform that there is not everything OK.

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    I have the 6008, and I absolutely love the picture and sound. Everything I paid for, which is roughly 700 euros.
    I do not use a lot of features or smart TV. I do use the menu to change some settings depending on what I am doing, or changing source to network/hdmi and so on.
    Every time I have to use the menu, including just changing a channel, I regret buying his TV. It is beyond me how a 2013 model cannot display a text menu or change the channel, without lag/delay. You have so much hardware capacity and yet you cannot show me a text menu that is fluent and reactive? My TI83 calculator from 1998 could do this better (this is sadly not a joke).

    Following that the programming is so absurdly bad, I also now own a TV that will crash and turn of randomly once in a while, to which the standard solution is "unplug the tv for 5min and try again". If that does not say everything there is to know about the complete failure of this tv software, I don't know what does.

    Everytime there is a FW update, I hope that something has been improved. I'm on my 4th, and nothing ever happens. and since this is now probably considered an old 2013 model, I don't expect anything will happen. Please prove me wrong and make me not hate my TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pashkustva View Post
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    Ina what we want from you is just to forward our concerns to your managers. Just to inform that there is not everything OK.
    Agree with you again: +1

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