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    Exclamation Philips UHD TV : HEVC support

    (Sorry if this post is not at the right place in the forum...)

    Philips is just launching 2014 UHD TVs :
    - 55PUS8809/12
    - 55PUS7809/12

    According to Philips web site, they are NOT compatible with HEVC, that means they CANNOT decode UHD content from TNT DVB-T2 or other source !

    Do you confirm this amazing information ?


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    Thumbs down

    I've just had an answer from Philips customer care :

    Philips 2014 UHD TVs :
    - 55PUS8809/12
    - 55PUS7809/12

    don't support HEVC and won't be upgraded ...


    (For your information, DVB-T2 tests started in Paris for UHD HEVC broadcast of Rolland-Garros tournament)

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    bollocks.

    anybody know weather these TVs support VP9?

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    As far as i know, the answer is no support of VP9 for Philips 2014 UHD TVs :
    - 55PUS8809/12
    - 55PUS7809/12

    (f.y.i. in the user manual, in the chapter "terms of use, copyrights and licenses" that lists source code of the parts of TP Vision Europe B.V. TV software that fall under open source licenses, we can find VP8)

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    An interesting news for those who are concerned with UHD TVs :
    The Consumer Electronics Association (CEA)® has just announced (06/24/2014) an updated core characteristics for Ultra High-Definition (UHD) TVs, monitors and projectors for the home.

    "Under CEA’s expanded characteristics, a TV, monitor or projector may be referred to as Ultra High-Definition if it meets the following minimum performance attributes:
    · ...
    · Video Codec – Decodes IP-delivered video of 3840x2160 resolution that has been compressed using HEVC* and may decode video from other standard encoders. "

    *High Efficiency Video Compression Main Profile, Level 5, Main tier, as defined in ISO/IEC 23008-2 MPEG-H Part 2 or ITU-T H.265, and may support higher profiles, levels or tiers.

    Is Philips aiming to be CEA compliant for 2014 TVs ?

    Regards.

    Source : http://www.ce.org/News/News-Releases...h-Definit.aspx

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    Hi LR92F.

    Our UHD TVs do align with the CEA guidelines in terms of performance attributes, which (for UHD TVs) are:

    Under CEA’s expanded characteristics, a TV, monitor or projector may be referred to as Ultra High-Definition if it meets the following minimum performance attributes:

    · Display Resolution – Has at least eight million active pixels, with at least 3840 horizontally and at least 2160 vertically.
    · Aspect Ratio – Has a width to height ratio of the display’s native resolution of 16:9 or wider.
    · Upconversion – Is capable of upscaling HD video and displaying it at Ultra High-Definition resolution.
    · Digital Input – Has one or more HDMI inputs supporting at least 3840x2160 native content resolution at 24p, 30p and 60p frames per second. At least one of the 3840x2160 HDMI inputs shall support HDCP revision 2.2 or equivalent content protection.
    · Colorimetry – Processes 2160p video inputs encoded according to ITU-R BT.709 color space and may support wider colorimetry standards.
    · Bit Depth – Has a minimum color bit depth of eight bits.
    The part you are quoting is in regards to devices referred to as “Connected Ultra HD device”. Since we do not refer to our UHD TVs as Connected UHD TVs, we do in fact align with the guidelines as laid out by CEA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philips - Ina View Post
    Hi LR92F.

    Our UHD TVs do align with the CEA guidelines in terms of performance attributes, which (for UHD TVs) are:
    The part you are quoting is in regards to devices referred to as “Connected Ultra HD device”. Since we do not refer to our UHD TVs as Connected UHD TVs, we do in fact align with the guidelines as laid out by CEA.
    Best regards,
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    Thank you very much for these details.

    I'm more than surprised that Philips don't consider UHD TVs as Connected UHD TVs !
    From a CEA point of view it's unfortunately true, from a functionnal point of view Philips TVs are already connected.

    HEVC codec is a must and the sinew of UHD TVs.
    Philips competitors do implement HEVC in their TVs... so please try to consider it as quick as possible.
    UHD TVs without HEVC is a non sense.

    I cannot understand this position nore the fact that no HEVC upgrade is forecasted on High ends 2014 Philips TVs !
    (it looks like past discussions on (no) DTS support... )

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    I do agree, Philips must work to give support to his customers. I had bet with my 7809 model, but If Philips is not upgrading nor implementing HEVC and change the atitude, I am not going to invite my friends or family for this brand.

    Is like the question I had asked about having HDMI 2.0 in the port 1 (Solo la conexión HDMI 1 es HDCP 2.2 y HDMI 2.0., article 4.1 HDMI UHD, t is stated in the instructions) the answer from Philips was like with with the "connected UHD TVs", no clear confirmationm that this port was supporting 60 FPS.
    :-(

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    Hi,

    for 7809 there is exact information about the FPS in the datasheet:

    Supported Display Resolution:

    Computer inputs on all HDMI:
    - up to FHD 1920x1080@60Hz
    - 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160@30Hz

    Video inputs on all HDMI:
    - up to FHD 1920x1080p, @ 24, 25, 30, 50, 60Hz
    - up to 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160p, @24,25,30Hz

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    And here is the unclear answer again.
    Is not the right threat, but any way...
    The specs you do describe above is Not, meeting HDMI 2.0.
    why the instructions show HDMI port 1 to be HDMI 2.0?
    What is wrong above specs or HDMI 2.0

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    Hi,

    correct - the 7809 does NOT have any HDMI-2.0 port.

    However, one HDMI port has HDCP 2.2 encryption support.

    Toengel@Alex

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    Conclusion, I own a TV that says does say do have an HDMI 2.0 port in the instructions, and you confirm me here does not.
    Could you let me know which one will be the procedure to return the TV to Philips Spain on September because false data is given an get my full Money back if I do finally take the decision to return it after my holidays.

    Regards

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    Hi,

    where is written, that you have HDMI 2.0?

    Toengel@Alex

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    It is clearly written in he instructions (Spanish).

    Solo la conexión HDMI 1 es HDCP 2.2 y HDMI 2.0.

    article 4.1 HDMI UHD,
    This is way I may so frustrated, :-(.
    BTW, thanks for answering @Toengel

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    Hi,

    indeed - the English and German manual does not have "HDMI 2.0" in this section...

    But the Spanish has... So keep a backup of the PDF if you want to exchange the TV.

    Toengel@Alex

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