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    Question BDP3100 AAC support ?

    Hi,
    Can we expect the support of AAC reading for the 3100 serie ? The 3200 got it and since it's only software decoding, a firmware upgrade could help it ^^

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    Looking at this link http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...p/t-1267.html? it should work

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    Yes, should work also in BDP2700/12 (friend's player, not my own, thank god), but it won't. At least according to Philips specs from

    http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/d...4091&faqview=1

    Already updated firmware from 1.21 to 1.54, tried to play back at least three different containers with AAC-audio, MP4-container with audio "Audio: AAC 24000Hz mono 64kbps" from digital camera, self encoded (Xmedia Recode) MKV with audio "Audio: AAC 44100Hz stereo 1411kbps" and third MKV sample from internet, details not available but also with AAC-audio.

    Every single one fails with "Audio mode not supported" or something like that. Video plays just fine with all samples that I've tried so far.

    How to fix this? Any ideas?

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    anymore mediainfo?

    guess it's better to send your file to Philips to study so?

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    Of course, here comes info from one of the files that originally indicated this problem.

    Code:
    General
    Complete name                    : C:\Temp\M4H00020.MP4
    Format                           : MPEG-4
    Format profile                   : Sony PSP
    Codec ID                         : MSNV
    File size                        : 11.8 MiB
    Duration                         : 11s 11ms
    Overall bit rate                 : 8 963 Kbps
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2009-11-10 15:14:29
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2009-11-10 15:14:40
    
    Video
    ID                               : 1
    Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
    Format profile                   : Advanced Coding Efficiency@L4
    Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
    Format settings, QPel            : No
    Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
    Format settings, Matrix          : Default (H.263)
    Codec ID                         : 20
    Duration                         : 11s 11ms
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 9 000 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                 : 14.0 Mbps
    Width                            : 1 280 pixels
    Height                           : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
    Frame rate mode                  : Constant
    Frame rate                       : 29.970 fps
    Color space                      : YUV
    Bit depth                        : 8 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.326
    Stream size                      : 11.7 MiB (99%)
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2009-11-10 15:14:29
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2009-11-10 15:14:40
    
    Audio
    ID                               : 2
    Format                           : AAC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile                   : LC
    Codec ID                         : 40
    Duration                         : 11s 8ms
    Bit rate mode                    : Constant
    Bit rate                         : 64.0 Kbps
    Channel(s)                       : 1 channel
    Channel positions                : Front: C
    Sampling rate                    : 24.0 KHz
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Stream size                      : 86.1 KiB (1%)
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2009-11-10 15:14:29
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2009-11-10 15:14:40
    And from the Xmedia encoded mkv which also fails:

    Code:
    General
    Unique ID                        : 192330389737591061274543518522977480215 (0x90B17C5599371F28AE6D5F6C9712EE17)
    Complete name                    : F:\02-26_22-20-00_YLE TV2_Poliisi-tv.mkv
    Format                           : Matroska
    Format version                   : Version 2
    File size                        : 68.0 MiB
    Duration                         : 4mn 27s
    Overall bit rate                 : 2 135 Kbps
    Writing application              : Lavf53.5.0
    Writing library                  : Lavf53.5.0
    
    Video
    ID                               : 1
    Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
    Format profile                   : Simple@L1
    Format settings, BVOP            : No
    Format settings, QPel            : No
    Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
    Format settings, Matrix          : Default (H.263)
    Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/ASP
    Codec ID/Info                    : Advanced Simple Profile
    Duration                         : 4mn 27s
    Width                            : 720 pixels
    Height                           : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
    Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
    Standard                         : PAL
    Color space                      : YUV
    Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                        : 8 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Writing library                  : Lavc53.7.0
    
    Audio
    ID                               : 2
    Format                           : AAC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile                   : LC
    Codec ID                         : A_AAC
    Duration                         : 4mn 27s
    Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
    Channel positions                : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                    : 44.1 KHz
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Language                         : English
    Last edited by Jarkko; 08-29-2011 at 11:25 AM.

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    Confirm not working

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarkko View Post
    Yes, should work also in BDP2700/12 (friend's player, not my own, thank god), but it won't. At least according to Philips specs from

    http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/d...4091&faqview=1

    Already updated firmware from 1.21 to 1.54, tried to play back at least three different containers with AAC-audio, MP4-container with audio "Audio: AAC 24000Hz mono 64kbps" from digital camera, self encoded (Xmedia Recode) MKV with audio "Audio: AAC 44100Hz stereo 1411kbps" and third MKV sample from internet, details not available but also with AAC-audio.

    Every single one fails with "Audio mode not supported" or something like that. Video plays just fine with all samples that I've tried so far.

    How to fix this? Any ideas?
    ACC not works, despite the philips specification, you have to convert in ac3, this player needs too much conversion to work
    and support staf is not present,I think I will change it for another brand

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    Dear users,

    We are currently investigating these issues and we will come back to you as soon as possible
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    Thanks! Will forward this info to friend ASAP.

    Maybe premature, but how likely is this problem to actually be solved? I know for a fact that he's already considring of switching to differend brand because of this.

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    Dear customers,

    Clarified with our software team: Since both models (BDP2700 & BDP3100) are DivX Ultra certificated and not DivX Plus HD certificated, the AAC cannot be decoded.

    We will clarify this better in our online material to avoid similar mistakes.

    Sorry for the inconvenience caused to you.

    Kind regards,
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    But why not providing some firmware to make AAC decoding possible? You know, 'service is our success'.

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    Hello! Somebody there?

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    I think the answer was given already: Since both models (BDP2700 & BDP3100) are DivX Ultra certificated and not DivX Plus HD certificated, the AAC cannot be decoded....

    This has to do with certifications, licenses etc and for this reason no new software will be made.....

    Bye

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