BDP3100 AAC support ?

[Sakam]

Hi,
Can we expect the support of AAC reading for the 3100 serie ? The 3200 got it and since it's only software decoding, a firmware upgrade could help it ^^

[Oscar]

Looking at this link http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...p/t-1267.html? it should work

[Jarkko]

Yes, should work also in BDP2700/12 (friend's player, not my own, thank god), but it won't. At least according to Philips specs from

http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/d...4091&faqview=1

Already updated firmware from 1.21 to 1.54, tried to play back at least three different containers with AAC-audio, MP4-container with audio "Audio: AAC 24000Hz mono 64kbps" from digital camera, self encoded (Xmedia Recode) MKV with audio "Audio: AAC 44100Hz stereo 1411kbps" and third MKV sample from internet, details not available but also with AAC-audio.

Every single one fails with "Audio mode not supported" or something like that. Video plays just fine with all samples that I've tried so far.

How to fix this? Any ideas?

[kwinnie]

anymore mediainfo?

guess it's better to send your file to Philips to study so?

[Jarkko]

Of course, here comes info from one of the files that originally indicated this problem.

General
Complete name                    : C:\Temp\M4H00020.MP4
Format                           : MPEG-4
Format profile                   : Sony PSP
Codec ID                         : MSNV
File size                        : 11.8 MiB
Duration                         : 11s 11ms
Overall bit rate                 : 8 963 Kbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2009-11-10 15:14:29
Tagged date                      : UTC 2009-11-10 15:14:40

Video
ID                               : 1
Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                   : Advanced Coding Efficiency@L4
Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
Format settings, QPel            : No
Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix          : Default (H.263)
Codec ID                         : 20
Duration                         : 11s 11ms
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 9 000 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                 : 14.0 Mbps
Width                            : 1 280 pixels
Height                           : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate mode                  : Constant
Frame rate                       : 29.970 fps
Color space                      : YUV
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Progressive
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.326
Stream size                      : 11.7 MiB (99%)
Encoded date                     : UTC 2009-11-10 15:14:29
Tagged date                      : UTC 2009-11-10 15:14:40

Audio
ID                               : 2
Format                           : AAC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                   : LC
Codec ID                         : 40
Duration                         : 11s 8ms
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 64.0 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 1 channel
Channel positions                : Front: C
Sampling rate                    : 24.0 KHz
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Stream size                      : 86.1 KiB (1%)
Encoded date                     : UTC 2009-11-10 15:14:29
Tagged date                      : UTC 2009-11-10 15:14:40

And from the Xmedia encoded mkv which also fails:

General
Unique ID                        : 192330389737591061274543518522977480215 (0x90B17C5599371F28AE6D5F6C9712EE17)
Complete name                    : F:\02-26_22-20-00_YLE TV2_Poliisi-tv.mkv
Format                           : Matroska
Format version                   : Version 2
File size                        : 68.0 MiB
Duration                         : 4mn 27s
Overall bit rate                 : 2 135 Kbps
Writing application              : Lavf53.5.0
Writing library                  : Lavf53.5.0

Video
ID                               : 1
Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                   : Simple@L1
Format settings, BVOP            : No
Format settings, QPel            : No
Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix          : Default (H.263)
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/ASP
Codec ID/Info                    : Advanced Simple Profile
Duration                         : 4mn 27s
Width                            : 720 pixels
Height                           : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
Standard                         : PAL
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Progressive
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Writing library                  : Lavc53.7.0

Audio
ID                               : 2
Format                           : AAC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                   : LC
Codec ID                         : A_AAC
Duration                         : 4mn 27s
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L R
Sampling rate                    : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Language                         : English

[luckrm]

Yes, should work also in BDP2700/12 (friend's player, not my own, thank god), but it won't. At least according to Philips specs from

http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/d...4091&faqview=1

Already updated firmware from 1.21 to 1.54, tried to play back at least three different containers with AAC-audio, MP4-container with audio "Audio: AAC 24000Hz mono 64kbps" from digital camera, self encoded (Xmedia Recode) MKV with audio "Audio: AAC 44100Hz stereo 1411kbps" and third MKV sample from internet, details not available but also with AAC-audio.

Every single one fails with "Audio mode not supported" or something like that. Video plays just fine with all samples that I've tried so far.

How to fix this? Any ideas?

ACC not works, despite the philips specification, you have to convert in ac3, this player needs too much conversion to work
and support staf is not present,I think I will change it for another brand

[Philips - Remko]

Dear users,

We are currently investigating these issues and we will come back to you as soon as possible
with our findings.

Thanks

[Jarkko]

Thanks! Will forward this info to friend ASAP.

Maybe premature, but how likely is this problem to actually be solved? I know for a fact that he's already considring of switching to differend brand because of this.

[Philips - Remko]

Dear customers,

Clarified with our software team: Since both models (BDP2700 & BDP3100) are DivX Ultra certificated and not DivX Plus HD certificated, the AAC cannot be decoded.

We will clarify this better in our online material to avoid similar mistakes.

Sorry for the inconvenience caused to you.

Kind regards,

[maichberger]

But why not providing some firmware to make AAC decoding possible? You know, 'service is our success'.

[maichberger]

Hello! Somebody there?

[Pacman]

I think the answer was given already: Since both models (BDP2700 & BDP3100) are DivX Ultra certificated and not DivX Plus HD certificated, the AAC cannot be decoded....

This has to do with certifications, licenses etc and for this reason no new software will be made.....

Bye