Your experiences with FW v0.140.37.0 for 5xx5, 6xx5, and 7xx5 series (2010 models)

[petasis]

What is the signal strength of your SD channels you see macroblocks?

(I am lucky, I have never seen a single macroblock on my 9705, but my signal strength is very good).

[Sagittarius]

Hello all

Since I still had the macroblocks problem on SF1,
SF2 SFinfo and HDsuisse from time to time (SRG1
packet on CH 36, 594Mhz QAM256) I updated to
140.37 now but the Problem still exists while my
DVD-Recorder Panasonic DMR-EX93C does not
show any problems on its DVB-C tuner at all!

Now I found something very interesting! As soon
the macroblocks are starting I am touching either
the antenna cable which is coming from the DVD-
recorder together with the HDMI which leads to
the recorder, the macroblocks are stopping! I also
can touch the back of the TV set at the plastic case
near the antenna input and HDMI1 socket, the
macroblocks disappear! What the hell!!!

I am very wondering if you can confirm this
behaviour on your TV set, too, as soon you have
those macroblocks!

As soon I walk away from the TV I have the blocks
again!

So my opinion now is: this can not be solved by a
firmware update!!!

I believe, it seems it has to do something with:

- bad groundings
- sheath currents
- bad tuner (kind of self oscillation maybe)
- bad solder joints

I am now investigating this problem on the RF side
with RF or ferrit chokes according to my knowledge.

I also have a HAMA sheath current filter but if I
connect this one between antenna and recorder or
TV I do not receive anymore (no signal is coming
thru this filter unfortunately).

Now I would like to hear from all who have still this
macroblock problem, what is happening, if you touch
either the cables near the input connectors at the
back or if you touch them together with the plastic
shield (case) next to the antenna connector. Maybe there are some electronic engineers around who
can tell more. I am just a radio amateur so my
knowledge is a little limited to basics.

Regards, Chris

[pdemo]

Hi,

I advise you to check and change the antenna plug

[Sagittarius]

Hello pdemo

Another option is to replace the cable. I will go to
a shop soon to buy an new, short cable for my
connection from DVD recorder to the TV. Of course
I will take not the cheepest one, it has to be a good
one, not the delivered one anymore which was
added to the recorder.

I allready have e brand new good antenna cable
wiht 100dB shielding and ferrites at the ends from
the antenna socket at the wall leading to my DVD
recorder.

But one funny thing is, if I deconnect this cable
from the DVD recorder and I put it directly to the
TV, there is still this macroblock problem!

At the moment all is ok, no macroblocks, but it
will reappeare, that's for sure! It's just a matter
of time (hours or days, maybe a few weeks) until
it reappears.

I mailed my message and opinion also to PHILIPS
directly. If I am lucky, they will read it and if I am
very lucky, I will get an answer much earlier than
5 weeks like it needed last time :-(

Regards, Chris

[pdemo]

I think Philips tuners are very medium and not enough protection.

This is lowcoast.

[petasis]

I think all these are related to your signal strength.
I think it should be obligatory that users complaining about macro-blocks also report their signal strength.

Regarding tuners, at least on the 9000 series I have, are really good.

[banjeep]

for me the macroblocks is not a signal problem, because in some firmware, the firmware microblocks are minor and others are more obvious, in my area the signal is 95% and 90% quality is impossible to have more, with a measuring instrument.

in my tv i connecting wifi usb have macroblocks audio evident,i disconnecting the wifi and no have macroblock in any channel
this problem is really annoying for a TV
fw 140.037 country italy
Sorry for my English

[pdemo]

Regarding tuners, at least on the 9000 series I have, are really good.

You have chance but with a medium signal, Philips is not as good as Sony for example.

We already had this discussion in another topic

[Aleks]

Hello. And as you show the satellite channels in SD on the last FW? I'm still while watching a football game in sharpness (definition 3) I see a slight shift
pixels around the contour of players (a satellite receiver connected to TV via SCART with RGB) I appeal to programmers of the company, please solve this problem and improve the image quality SD channels in your next FW. In FW. 140. 36 were significant improvements on
last FW worse again. You are getting close to solving the problem. Please solve the problem completely. Test your next FW internationally SD channel at its discretion to
TV 5605 H / 12. TV is good, but it worked much better on the FW 075. 13. 43. Maybe compare video processing algorithms? With respect to you.

. (my signal quality 80 - 90%)

[petasis]

for me the macroblocks is not a signal problem, because in some firmware, the firmware microblocks are minor and others are more obvious, in my area the signal is 95% and 90% quality is impossible to have more, with a measuring instrument.

in my tv i connecting wifi usb have macroblocks audio evident,i disconnecting the wifi and no have macroblock in any channel
this problem is really annoying for a TV
fw 140.037 country italy
Sorry for my English

Quality is more important than strength. The fact that you have 90%, means that errors in your signal cannot be fully corrected by the error correction algorithms. There is some problem with your signal.

Regarding the usb wifi, just use an extension cable to move it away from your tv.

[petasis]

You have chance but with a medium signal, Philips is not as good as Sony for example.

We already had this discussion in another topic

Which topic?
I don't have a sony, but I have a panasonic. And the tuner of my 9705 is better than the one in panasonic.

[pdemo]

This topic http://www.supportforum.philips.com/..../page7&p=6941

[globetrotter]

I'am still having problems with the black screen, when leaving Net TV.

[banjeep]

Regarding the usb wifi, just use an extension cable to move it away from your tv.

I will make a try, thanks

however, my signal is perfect, other TV does not have this problem with the wifi for me is the firmware.

[petasis]

I will make a try, thanks

however, my signal is perfect, other TV does not have this problem with the wifi for me is the firmware.

Do the other TVs accept a wifi stick? Which model is your sony TV?