USB Recording: your experiences

[adel]

Hi,

I've got a 42PFL3507H/12 model (bought yesterday) connected with a 500Gb DK by USB link.
Software :T921E 2.03
I'm really surprised when I time shift something, it doesn't stay on the DK.
There is 2 folders, Lost+Found and tshift but both are always empty.
Is there an option to keep it on the DK so, if it's too long or if some friends come, you can watch the end another day?

Regards,

Adel

PS: Sorry for the double message

[Toengel]

Hi,

TimeShift is only allowed for max. 90 min. So, e.g. so you see a movie of about 120 minutes and you start time shift at the beginning and want so start watching it at the end, the first 30 minutes are lost. This isn't a decision of Philips, it's more a constraint of the broadcaster / networks...

Toengel@Alex

[adel]

Hi,

Thank you for this precision (not a good news!) but you don't answer my question. Is it possible to save the timeshift and read it another day ?

Regards,

Adel

[Toengel]

Hi,

no - it's not.

Toengel@Alex

[Joerg]

Hi,

2 Weeks ago I wanted to record a movie (using the integrated DVB-S Receiver on 32PFL5806K with firmware 0.14.96, no smart Card or something similar) starting 20:15 to 22:10, I programmed it, didn't change the time values. A few minutes before the movie started the message came whether I want to record or cancel, I pressed record. After that I changed the channel to the channel were we wanted to record, wasn't sure if I have to or if the TV is doing it on it's own. No message appeared, no "record sign" appeared. After the movie finished I looked in the EPG and it just said "Error" behind the record.

Yesterday I wanted to record a movie again (now with 0.14.97 Firmware). The movie started at 20:15 and ended at 22:10. The EPG suggested start time 20:15, end time 22:25. I changed the end time to 22:15.
I was already watching the right channel, a few minutes before the starting time the message appeared if I want to record or cancel, I pressed record. The movie started, suddenly the message appeard "Recording complete"... And no, I'm sure I didn't change the end time to 20:15... The EPG wrote the record would be 0 Minutes long and of course nothing was recorded

So far I was only able to record something when I wasn't at home and the TV was switched off (that was 4 times), when I was at home watching TV I wasn't able to record something (2 times). Not very reliable.

Internet was everytime online.

Regards Joerg

[adel]

Hi,

It is said on Philips website that my TV (42PFL3507H/12) can record free channels on 32GB USB drive but I don't see how to do it. It's not written on EPG but timeshift doesn't appear either although I can timeshift (easy with remote control).

Do you know if what is said is true and, if it's a YES, how can it be done ?

Regards,

Adel

[marco zagolin]

Thanks for your response!

You wrote that most sticks are too slow..... Which ones are fast enough then? I just want to use an USB stick

Don't want connect extra hubs, cables and stuff because of the "clean wall install" which I prefer


rgds Peter

Kingston Datatraveler 100 G2 DT100G2/32GB

works on my 32pfl7606m (about 30 hours memory).

[marco zagolin]

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- USB Scheduled Recording requires an active internet connection on the TV (wired or wireless).[/I]
...

1 - why requires an active internet connection ? I did read all message, but did not find any reason for that
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2 - but, above all, why you cannot neither view recordings without an active internet connection ?
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3 - why there is no One Touch Recording, as I can find on most 10 years old device ?
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Any response would be appreciated.
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Regards,
marco

[Ricepes]

I hope Philips remove those limitations in the future......

[worti]

I don´t think that will happen. As for me I think they don´t want it to work. We all already bought the TV so Philips isn´t interested in us anymore. My electronic TV program isn´t working since 5 days - so Iḿ not able to record or even view already recorded movies.

I really can´t believe this won´t work without internet connection. Iḿ so disappointet from Philips. Every future customer I would recommend not bying a Philips product - and don´t trust what Philips Marketing tells you: nobody told me that you have to have a internet connection to record programs , nobody told me that the TV`s fimware is buggy as hell. ......

[matthias]

1 - why requires an active internet connection ? I did read all message, but did not find any reason for that
.
2 - but, above all, why you cannot neither view recordings without an active internet connection ?
.
3 - why there is no One Touch Recording, as I can find on most 10 years old device ?

The reason for the internet connection is that the user interface for is implemented as web page, which is loaded from the Philips servers each time it is started. Also, the EPG-data is obtained for each call.

In principle, using Opera as UI frontend I think is a good decision, because it allows to design a much nicer UI, and also updates without the need to install a new firmware. However, it should be cached locally, together with the EPG data and not loaded over the internet. AFAIK, this is fixed for the 2012 TVs?
Also, the EPG should be cached locally, so recodings still works when no internet connection is available.

Viewing and starting a recording is also done through a web page loaded from the Philips servers.

A one-touch (well, two-touch) recording is in fact possible, there is just no button on the remote control, or shortcut in the Options menu - no idea why.
If you use a different remote which has a Record button (or use one of these Jointspace applicatoins), a window appears, where you can change start and stop time and start the recording on the current channel.

Still, in the current 2011 implementation, even though no program information is shown, this "direct" recording also requires an internet connection.

[hodihu]

I got serious problems with USB-recording with my 32PFL7406K/02 bought in Sept. 2011.
I already changed through 3 different HDDs (2 2,5" and now a 3,5" with external power supply) but I get a lot of "Fehler"-errors instead of recordings. Every view weeks I upgraded to the firmware to the latest version.
Is this a general problem with this TV or ist mine just broken and I have to return it?

Holger

[backhandguga]

First time that I heard about this issue. Would be nice to open a support ticket have have this one checked.

[user0815]

10 got http://www.philips.de/c/fernsehgerae...fl7406k_02/prd
20 key *support*
*press thumbs*

btw. I read at Heise or somewere else it may be a good idea to use WD hard disks instead of Seagate. May be an option.

[hodihu]

10 got http://www.philips.de/c/fernsehgerae...fl7406k_02/prd
20 key *support*
*press thumbs*

Pardon?

btw. I read at Heise or somewere else it may be a good idea to use WD hard disks instead of Seagate. May be an option.

I'm already using a WD-HDD.