[Important] Bugs, which need to be fixed in 2010 firmware (TV550R1)

[cipher]

Feature:
Feature:
Add support for more audio codecs: FLAC, Ogg-Vorbis, APE, etc. - all FREE.
Note: don't even mention the CPU power needed (!!!), because audio decoding (even high-rez multichannel) is much lighter than full HD video.

I doubt that is even an option. All the Audio and Video decoding takes place inside specializeds DSPs for the supported codecs and not in software with a general purpose CPU. Imagin the processing power that would be needed to decode a H.264 1080p stream on a general purpose CPU. And i'm not even talking about all the picture quality enhancement algorithmes that take place.

The general purpose IP-Core inside the PNX85500 SoC (which is the center of our TV550 platform based TVs) is nothing more than a 32Bit MIPS32 24K running at 300MHz. And i doubt it has a lot of cycles to spare for additional audio codecs - even if the system design would allow to do that kind of stuff outside the audio processing chain.

All who want to have a little insight into the TV550 platform i highly recommend a look at this presentation: http://www.hotchips.org/archives/hc2...-%20090825.pdf

cheers
cipher

[carlosfm]

I doubt that is even an option. All the Audio and Video decoding takes place inside specializeds DSPs for the supported codecs and not in software with a general purpose CPU...

DSPs are (re)programmable (unless it's some pre-historic technology), they have software inside to allow them to perform specific tasks.
I know about the PNX85500 chip, I have that pdf.

There are (full HD) media player boxes that have a CPU at around 300Mhz and 256MB of RAM (or even 128MB) and with firmware updates they provide support for more codecs.
Certainly, it's not rocket science.

[carlosfm]

There's also the option of overclocking.

[Toengel]

Hi,

Feature:
Browse shared folders on your PC(s) directly through the network, without DLNA.
That is, use your network shares as if it was an external HDD connected to the USB port.

Samba? I think there are more possibilities... so I left that open...

Feature:
Add support for more audio codecs: FLAC, Ogg-Vorbis, APE, etc. - all FREE.
Note: don't even mention the CPU power needed (!!!), because audio decoding (even high-rez multichannel) is much lighter than full HD video.

Feature 19

Feature:
Add wired (and wireless) USB keyboard support, even if it's only the English/US keyboard layout. Anything is better than nothing.

already in the list: feature 17

Feature:
Allow analog stereo audio output on the SCART plugs, from any input source (internal - digital and analog tuners - and external).
Note: No, I'm not going to record it on my cassette deck (!) and sell tapes - this is a ridiculous absence, as analog audio is always present in the headphones plug.

feature 20

Toengel@Alex

[Alicia]

What I really miss in NetTV is that the PIP in the upper right corner, doesn't show the image from attached devices, only tv image. As it doesn't show the image from my mediaplayer, my Xbox or my settop box, I am looking at a black image most of the time.

[Toengel]

Hi,

feature 21...

Toengel@Alex

[carlosfm]

Oohhh, if Philips implements everything that's on the list, I'll love my TV so much that I'll sleep with it.

Thanks for the thread, Toengel.

[alavela]

Oohhh, if Philips implements everything that's on the list, I'll love my TV so much that I'll sleep with it.

Thanks for the thread, Toengel.

Me too! Thank you very much Toengel!

[smart]

All who want to have a little insight into the TV550 platform i highly recommend a look at this presentation: http://www.hotchips.org/archives/hc2...-%20090825.pdf

cheers
cipher

Thanks for posting that, really interesting presentation!

[Toengel]

- energy saving mode should turn off the ambilight

Hi,

this works on my TV (58PFL9955) - Please check again!

Toengel@Alex

[Lubo]

Hi,
When I set a sleep timer and change it before it expires shall not be taken into consideration the new time and the TV off during the first time set

32PFL7605H/12 - FW v0.140.25.0
32PFL7605H/12 - FW v0.140.39.0

Didn't work only after TV show message "TV will be turned off after 1 minute"

[Toengel]

Hi,
When I set a sleep timer and change it before it expires shall not be taken into consideration the new time and the TV off during the first time set

Hi,

can somebody please confirm that behaviour?

Toengel@Alex

[JuMe]

BUG
Occasional sound loss when switching between HDMI inputs.

I have seen many good feature suggestions here. However, because I’m a new Philips user, I’m curious to know if Philips has ever released a software update with new features or even modifications the existing ones? Let’s take the sleep timer as an example. It’s buried behind several menus, and I’m sure Philips has heard customers’ complaints about it. Providing a shortcut would probably be the easiest feature request ever to put into practice, but still Philips seems reluctant to do so. That makes me wonder if Philips has a policy that they stick to bug fixes, but will not change anything in the features-category.

[Toengel]

BUG
Occasional sound loss when switching between HDMI inputs.

Hi,

bug 21 (I heard of that bug in other forums as well).

Toengle@alex

[areyoukiddingme??]

Dear Philips, dear all,

I made a list of observed bugs, missing features, and needed clarifications for the 2010 TV series firmware (TV550R1).

@Philips
Please take a deep look at this list. This could be a good place to gather some information in a ordered way. And please state some answers to the clarification part!

@All
If you found further bugs, please state a "one line description", cause I'd like to update the list regularily.

Clarifications:

1. IP EPG and Ziggo: Ziggo says IP-EPG should work in parallel with DVB-EPG. Why does it not work?
2. How is the status of EPG over DVB-T in countries such as Greece? Why do restrictions exist?
3. Does DTS and/or DD passthrough work with this setup?: BDP->HDMI->TV->SPDIF->HTS
4. Does DTS and/or DD passthrough work with this setup?: BDP->HDMI->TV->HDMI-ARC->HTS
5. Whats the maximum USB-HDD size supported by the TV series?
6. Which TV series support native 24p inputs (pulldown, which setup etc.)?
7. Now/Next EPG OSD (transparent layer during zapping): What's the reason why this feature is not implemented (anymore)?
8. What is the customer supposed to do, if he/she still has sound drop issues? Will this be fixed by software or hardware only?

Features:

1. SRT subtitles are not supported
2. switching between audio streams in media files is not working
3. if DTS is present in media files, complete video is not playable even if video coded is supported
4. status page (option button - status info) does not show frequency of input source (e.g. 24Hz, 50Hz, ...)
5. channel list: "hide encrypted channels" feature is missing
6. MultiView (Cinema 21:9): it is not possible to switch from MultiView to fullscreen
7. MultiView (Cinema 21:9): it is not possible to switch from TV directly to MultiView
8. Home menu isn't completely customizable (moving icons, see also: http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...user-interface).)
9. sleep timer isn't present via Green Button (it's deeply hidden inside the configuration menu)
10. There is no zoom setting to display TV broadcasts in 4:3 aspect ratio without stretching to 16:9
11. Better (read faster) RW / FF via DLNA and / or a resume function
12. Download/Update the channel list on usb stick and provide a software for easy editing on PC.
13. Support access to local web pages in local network without Philips proxy server
14. 3D: add modi "Side by Side inverted" and "Top Bottom inverted" - such as in TV550R3
15. (energy saving mode should turn off the ambilight) => tbc, works on 58PFL9955
16. Update Opera with HBBTV 1.1.1 capabilities - such as in TV550R2/R3
17. USB HID support
18. DTS support
19. Add support for more open audio codecs: FLAC, Ogg-Vorbis, APE, etc.
20. Allow analog stereo audio output on the SCART plugs, from any input source (internal - digital and analog tuners - and external)
21. Net TV PIP: support also external sources (such as HDMI)

Bugs:

1. USB content is not shown in alphabetical order (or add an option to sort differently via the option button menu - such as by name, by date, last modified, ...)
2. during visibility of volume OSD, one is not able to switch channels or doing something different by pressing a button
3. DVB subtitles and volume OSD cannot be shown at the same time (tbc)
4. teletext is sometimes not working (nothing happens if one press teletext menu entry)
5. TV channel lists: sorting does always apply to the complete list
6. IP-EPG/channel mapping is always based on the complete channel list - independed of the actual chosen list
7. internal update mechanism is stuck at 140.27
8. MultiView (Cinema 21:9): translation error in German OSD, if one opens the menu to switch MultiView inputs ("Browse Menu" is shown)
9. Teletext (Cinema 21:9): aspect ratio of tv stream on the left is wrong in Dual View mode
10. Translation error: German "What's on" menu displays english weekday on the bottom left // with DVB-C no weekday is shown (tbc)
11. Some TV sets restart (e.g. 40pfl8605) when you switch off the TV while watching video via DLNA or USB
12. NETTV is slow and/or not working with many consumers => Fixed in Firmware 140.40
13. Embedded cover arts of MP3 files seem to have a size limitation (tbc)
14. No IP-EPG when using DVB-S(2)-Tuner
15. NetTV crashes, when getting channel updates from cable provider (see http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...channel-update)
16. Loading of commercials is impeding usage of NetTV (see http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...sage-of-Net-TV)
17. How to "scroll" through a zoomed EPG-Page? (see http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...oomed-EPG-Page)
18. Switching between Net TV Home and OpenInternet or App store interrupts PIP-sound (see http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...upts-PIP-sound)
19. Playing of xvid coded avi files over DLNA when specific flag (DLNA.ORG_PN) is set from some Mediaservers (see http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...y-and-Mimetype)
20. Red triangle (indication of Red Button functionality) in the upper right corner of each tv channel logo in the IP-EPG is missing since Net TV portal 2.5/2.6 (see also http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...TVs-in-Germany)
21. Occasional sound loss when switching between HDMI inputs.

Toengel@Alex

Changelog

• 2011-08-22: added clarification 8 / feature 10, 11 / bug 10, 11, 12, 13
• 2011-08-23: added feature 12 / bug 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19
• 2011-08-25: bug 12 fixed with FW 140.40
• 2011-08-26: feature 14
• 2011-08-27: features 15, 16, 17
• 2011-08-28: feature 18
• 2011-08-30: features 19, 20, 21
• 2011-09-01: bug 20, feature 15 => tbc
• 2011-09-06: bug 21

Toengel, thank you so much for your effort. This is a great list. I hope Philips will finally hear from their customers. However, I am not optimistic as I see that for months their responses on the forum have been selective, limited and toned in a way that it is always the customers that are doing something wrong. If I knew beforehand that as simple feature as subtitle support from external sources was not available I'd never go the Philips TV route. Now I am left with such huge disappointment and an expensive TV in my living room that I can't use for watching movies with my friends unless they speak perfect English and the rest of world's languages. That's some "sense and simplicity". Way to go Philips!