46pfl9706

[Teddy63]

Good evening,
I have the same problems of vertical strips at fast image on a light background or color uniform (football matches, rugby, skiing ...).
I contacted the technical department of Philips, which tells me that this is not a problem, just that I do not settle my TV!
I expect a response engineers next Tuesday ... if no solution is brought to me, the TV in its carton and return to the store!
I am convinced that Philips is aware of the problem but can not find a suitable solution ...
A firmware update will solve the problem can be ... but here I would have changed the model and maybe even (probably) brand!

[zlatko]

@Philips
Hello? Anybody here? Why Philips officials are constantly ignoring this questions about DSE?! This is really ridiculous!

[Teddy63]

A technician will come tomorrow to change the slab ( ?!) of my screen ...

I hope this will solve the problem of DSE and vertical banding ....

Else i will change my TV and buy another brand .... !

see you tomorrow ...

[zlatko]

@Teddy63
Good! Let us know if this repair will make it better. I still think most panels fitted in 9706 adn 52" 9606 are having the DSE issue.

[zlatko]

Still no word from Teddy63 about his exchange, but I will update the community about my findings.
Today I visited local Philips repair service where they have 9706 with DSE. There was e-mail exchange between repair service and Philips, it mentioned "undergoing investigation on banding issues on 9706 Sharp panels". So there is something going on, but how it will be resolved - we have yet to see.
Still no such investigation on 52" sharp panels in 9606.

[Teddy63]

I still have not received my TV ... according to the technician, the exchange of panel would have solved the problem ... I expect to see by myself and come back here to give you information.

[Mocas]

Any news on this subject?

I really want to get this set (46pfl9706) but this DSE problem is preventing me to take the plunge.

[zlatko]

@Mocas
Still Philips is tucking its head in the sand, not even investigating the issue, what to speak about finding acceptable solution for current owners. As far as I know they have enough data that DSE problem widely affects 9706.
My advice for you will be to wait until this time next year for 9xx7 models to be tested in the field with real reports from owners, not only marketing gloss then take the plunge.
There 2 direct LED models on market now - Philips 9x06 and Sony HX920. Both sets have issues with panels. But at least SONY acknowledged it and is investigating.

[Mocas]

@Mocas
Still Philips is tucking its head in the send, not even investigating the issue, what to speak about finding acceptable solution for current owners. As far as I know they have enough data that DSE problem widely affects 9706.
My advice for you will be to wait until this time next year for 9xx7 models to be tested in the field with real reports from owners, not only marketing gloss then take the plunge.
There 2 direct LED models on market now - Philips 9x06 and Sony HX920. Both sets have issues with panels. But at least SONY acknowledged it and is investigating.

I currently have a 32pfl9603 that I bought in 2009 and the only reason I'm buying a new model this year is because I have an opportunity to sell it (wanting a larger set helps too), but I have time constraints. I have some nitpicks with plasmas but I guess that will eventually be the way to go as all top local dimming led lcds have problems that "professional" reviews never mention... it's frustrating

sorry for the rant

[zlatko]

@Mocas
Bigger screen is a lot BETTER! And I mean A LOT! For watching HD of course, but who wants to watch something else these days anyway?
To be honest DSE is nearly unnoticeable in normal content(movies, news, documentaries etc.) but easily noticeable in alpine skiing and football games. I can live with it, but I can NEVER live with plasma flickering screens and not so sharp images on HD. Although plasma screen do have certain advantages as well. So think twice before buying a plasma.
Problem with top of the line local LED TVs is that when I am paying that much I want near perfection for the money. I understand the limitation of the technology(like blooming of direct LEDs) and I don't mind - I have made an educated choice there. But having manufacturing defect like DSE in your 2.500 euro TV set is not something that customer should accept. If Philips wants to be regarded as a reputable manufacturer it have to admit the issue and offer a solution - should it be replacement with 2012 top-model, all refund or something. To be honest - if PHILIPS offers my refund I will NOT take it - I will just keep my TV because it is otherwise SUPERB PQ!, but I will have trust in Philips that they are not letting their premium customer down and they stand behind their products. That is coming from 9732 and 9603 owner, currently having 9606.

[petasis]

I currently have a 32pfl9603 that I bought in 2009 and the only reason I'm buying a new model this year is because I have an opportunity to sell it (wanting a larger set helps too), but I have time constraints. I have some nitpicks with plasmas but I guess that will eventually be the way to go as all top local dimming led lcds have problems that "professional" reviews never mention... it's frustrating

sorry for the rant

Well all reviewers "forget" to mention things. The problem with plasmas is their durability. You may get a good image for about 1500 hours, and then see effects like black levels rising...
So the option is an LCD with panel uniformity issues, or plasma that gets slightly worse over time. Tough choice actually...

[bugmenot]

Does anyone else see extremely irregular patterns (about width of a finger) when watching from a small angle with TV on or almost any angle with TV off and with a bright light? It was so odd that the tech that came to change the motherboard asked me if I still had a protective plastic on the screen.

The patterns stop before 5cm or so from the left and right edges.

[RonianAT]

I got the 37PFL7605 with a similar problem when I did understand the OP. My TV has thin horizontal banding lines which is very noticable. Also 3 lines of vertical banding, but thats not always there, because it depends on the source (football for example).

The first problem is very annoying and our old Sony TV (bought 2009) doesnt have that...

[Vitor Sousa]

Hello to all,

I´m the proud owner of a 46PFL9706 bought 5 months ago. I´m very pleased with the TV in general, great image and sound. Although when I watch sports, particularly football, it´s noticeable three ou four vertical bands on the screen, the so called dirty screen image. When there was the horizontal panning of the camera, this is very noticeable. What should I do? This is a software problem, that would be corrected, or I should call a Philips engineer?

Greetings from Portugal.

[zlatko]

@Vitor Sousa
We are waiting for reply from Philips on this - source, solution etc. I will advice you contact Philips local care and make the register your problem. My recommendation will be to not go for panel change yet, cause it is not clear if there are DSE free TVs from 9th series from 2011. So you will just go trough the negatives, without seeing any improvement at the end.