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    DSE or not, you can see the screen is dirty. My Samsung screen is 100% clean and even.

    But indeed it is hard to see on this short video. But you can see the stains on the screen and the uneven brightness.

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    @GuiltyNL
    Yes, completely agree with you. This is unacceptable. Philips is hiding its head in the sand. It is good you will get replacement TV set. Please let us know if it will be better in regards of screen homogeneity.

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    The Samsung replacement was service from my dealer. I don't want another Philips TV. It is very sad as we like Amblight alot and also the matte screen is nice. Our 46PFL9706 was repaired twice and swapped once with a new one, but without any luck.

    I'm not going to do the same thing again, it is frustrating.

    I'm waiting for the new Samsung 9000 series, hopefully with Google TV embedded in it.

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    @GuiltyNL
    Ambilight and matte screen is what made me choose 52PFL9606 over Sony 55HX-929!
    Although HX929 was cheaper and slightly bigger screen.
    Watching movie with Ambilight is fantastic!
    I wish you good luck whatever TV set you choose mate!
    Thank you for sharing your experience with 9607 and 9707 with us! That way more people will be aware when doing their research before purchase.

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    We had Ambilight since 2005, so it is sad we have to say goodbye to it now.

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    @Philips mods
    As I see you have addressed numerous complains from 6xx7 TV sets owners with official statement HERE - can the same be done for DSE on 2011 9 series? I would like to hear from Philips on that matter.

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    I bought the 46PFL9707S this week...normally no more DSE but there is a DSE visible on football games for instance. To me this issue will never been solved for several reasons:
    1- OLED & 4K TV will arrive...OEM wont spend time solving issues on current technologies but put ressources on new ones
    2- not sure Philips will remain on the tv business. Joint-venture with TPVision is a first step for me...Philips will focus on other business such as healthcare.

    Anyways...I bought it. I beleive it is my last Philips tv unless yhey proove me wrong.

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    @MacGiver
    I see you posted on AV forums as well.
    Sorry to disappoint you, but Philips won't react in any way to our complaints. They say DSE is within specs. I understand it is a general issue in manufacturing, but the way Philips acted in this, left a bitter taste in my mouth. I was not expecting this from a reputable European vendor.
    I will think trice before acquiring another Philips TV, and this comes from an owner of 9732, 9603 and 9606 in the past years.
    Let wait and see what OLED has to offer in coming years.

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    @zlatko

    What tv do ou have now and in what circumstances do you notice DSE? I have 3 choices:
    1- return it and get my €€€ back
    2- ask for a swap and croos finger to get a free DSE tv
    3- keep it and live with it. I mainly see the issue while watching football games. I do not watch many but when i do it bothers me.

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    @MacGiver
    I have 52PFL9606. I see DSE as stated: alpine skiing, football and all panning shots over big light colored areas - snow, sky, mist, grass.
    If I were you I should go for options 1 or 3. Going exchange route is pain in the ass. And it is not sure you will find a better set in the end.
    So either get your money back (and buy Panasonic VT50(if you can live with plasma flicker) or SONY HX950) or live with DSE if you feel you can do it. Otherwise PQ on local dimming Philips TVs is EXCEPTIONAL.

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    my tv is older and has horizontal lines on component and flickers or strobe effect on HDMI inputs
    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_fS...it?usp=sharing
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    47PFL6704D/F7
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    i think that is because the nature of the LED system do not allow uniformity across the panel, if the panel is LED edge is worst this phenomen , i have some edge problems of uniformity with a LG LED tv of 22 inches, also i have a panasonic plasma display and no flicker effect or uniformity problem, i think philips is just going downhill a long time ago.
    Last edited by scandisk; 04-01-2013 at 02:56 AM.

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    @scandisk
    I don't see the value in your post?!
    First - all backlighing allows for uniformity(to human eye). It is only a matter of diffusing the light in the right way. Of course as the panels become extremely thin this task become harder to achieve. What we discuss here is - why Philips is not doing the necessary to keep DSE within some reasonable limits.

    Secondly - ALL plasma screens DO flicker, that is the nature of them. You can not get rid of it. This is result of PWM - Pusle Wide Modulation.

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