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    40pfl8605h/60 & iptv

    Hi!

    I'd like to ask if Philips 8605H/60 (f/w 000.140.046.000, the latest released) is capable to playback IPTV streams directly. Actually it seems that the question is more about supported video codecs than about network support.

    My home internet provider broadcasts (UDP multicast) a number of TV channels in two possible formats. A regular TV channel is broadcasted as MPEG-TS stream, with MPEG-2 Video (w/h=544x576, 25fps, complete mediainfo listigs are below) and MPEG-1 Layer 2 Audio. An HD channel is also a MPEG-TS, with AVC Video (w/h=1920x1080, 25fps, VLC calls this codec H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10) (h264)) and MPEG-1 Layer 2 audio.

    I set up a DLNA server (tried mediatomb, minidlna, xupnpd...) in the home LAN and Philips TV does connect to the DLNA service. It sees and can playback (most of) static files (MKVs, AVIs, MPGs etc).

    But I can't make it work with IPTV streams. I've tried several different setups, installed 'udpxy' program to proxy UDP muticast packages as an ordinary HTTP stream, tried several other solutions but no success. It seems that the TV ignores such media formats even if I save a piece of the stream as a file (with either 'wget -O test.ts <address-of-my-UDP-HTTP-proxy>' or more cumbersome 'vlc -I dummy udp://@239.1.6.1:1234 --sout "#standard{access=file,mux=ts,dst=tvout.mpg}" vlc://quit').

    So the questions are:

    What .TS formats are actually supported? (I've read the codec_table_all.xls, and .TS with MPEG-2 Video is listed).

    How are such streams "best served"? (excluding a separate mediaplayer of course :-) ) Maybe there're DLNA-related tips & tricks (e.g. additional/required headers for streaming data etc)

    Should I use a remuxing program to convert a stream on the fly into some other container and codec? (Initially I planned to put xupnpd into my home router but now ready to try a solution involving PC).

    Maybe I should try some experimental firmware from Philips etc, whatever else

    Thank you in advance.

    Below is mediainfo output:

    A regular TV channel:
    Code:
    General
    ID                                       : 2004 (0x7D4)
    Complete name                            : NG.stream
    Format                                   : MPEG-TS
    File size                                : 5.91 MiB
    Duration                                 : 12s 591ms
    Overall bit rate                         : 3 890 Kbps
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 1461 (0x5B5)
    Menu ID                                  : 1460 (0x5B4)
    Format                                   : MPEG Video
    Format version                           : Version 2
    Format profile                           : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix                  : Custom
    Codec ID                                 : 2
    Duration                                 : 12s 360ms
    Bit rate                                 : 3 200 Kbps
    Width                                    : 544 pixels
    Height                                   : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
    Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Interlaced
    Scan order                               : Top Field First
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.408
    Stream size                              : 4.88 MiB (82%)
    
    Audio #1
    ID                                       : 1464 (0x5B8)
    Menu ID                                  : 1460 (0x5B4)
    Format                                   : MPEG Audio
    Format version                           : Version 1
    Format profile                           : Layer 2
    Codec ID                                 : 4
    Duration                                 : 12s 576ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Delay relative to video                  : -483ms
    Stream size                              : 295 KiB (5%)
    Language                                 : Russian
    
    Audio #2
    ID                                       : 1465 (0x5B9)
    ...
    An HDTV channel:

    Code:
    General
    ID                                       : 666 (0x29A)
    Complete name                            : NG-HD.stream
    Format                                   : MPEG-TS
    File size                                : 12.5 MiB
    Duration                                 : 8s 698ms
    Overall bit rate                         : 11.7 Mbps
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 101 (0x65)
    Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
    Format                                   : AVC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                           : Main@L4.0
    Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
    Codec ID                                 : 27
    Duration                                 : 7s 220ms
    Bit rate                                 : 9 100 Kbps
    Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
    Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Interlaced
    Scan order                               : Top Field First
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.176
    Stream size                              : 7.83 MiB (63%)
    Color primaries                          : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
    Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709-5, BT.1361
    Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
    
    Audio #1
    ID                                       : 110 (0x6E)
    Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
    Format                                   : MPEG Audio
    Format version                           : Version 1
    Format profile                           : Layer 2
    Codec ID                                 : 4
    Duration                                 : 8s 736ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 128 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Delay relative to video                  : -790ms
    Stream size                              : 136 KiB (1%)
    Language                                 : Czech
    
    Audio #2
    ID                                       : 120 (0x78)
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    Hi

    you can ask your provider if they want to stream their program also via our NEtTV Portal.
    Besides that the Answer is no, the TV can not handle IPTV without external Devices.

    Regards
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