Your experiences with FW v0.140.47.0 for 8xx5 and 9xx5 series (2010 models)

[ch_harald]

i havent changed any settings all settings are on default

Hi, due to the ongoing discussions regarding picture quality I am still on .034 and satified but with default settings the picture would be having a terrible quality even on .034....

[ali54]

Hi, due to the ongoing discussions regarding picture quality I am still on .034 and satified but with default settings the picture would be having a terrible quality even on .034....

the problem i dont think is the settings the problem is how backlighting is controling the over all pictuer.whats setting are you useing?

[ch_harald]

the problem i dont think is the settings the problem is how backlighting is controling the over all pictuer.whats setting are you useing?

Hi, with .034 I am using the following settings on a 46PFL9705K:
Mode: personal
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 76
Color: 43
Sharpness: 1
Optimal resolution: on
Optimised color: off
Dyn. Backlight: standard
Color white: 127/115/84
Perfect contrast: min.
Gamma: 1
Screen margins: 4
Perfect Natural Motion: average
MPEG-Artefactsuppression: off
noise suppression: off

[punschula]

I have downgraded to 140.34 again, because the Picture with 140.47 is too bad. With 140.34 the Picture (Sharpness and Blacklevel) are much, much better. And another point is in the old Firmware included: The automaticically rezising from the Picture (the black Bars left and right in HD-stations) to the full-sized Picture. In newer versions (it begins with the 140.39 i think) this feature will not working. I must change manually the Source from HD1 to HD2 (BluRay) and then back. After them it is working until to the next restart. Such a shame, Philips! So it is proofed again: Older is better

[ch_harald]

I have downgraded to 140.34 again, because the Picture with 140.47 is too bad. With 140.34 the Picture (Sharpness and Blacklevel) are much, much better. And another point is in the old Firmware included: The automaticically rezising from the Picture (the black Bars left and right in HD-stations) to the full-sized Picture. In newer versions (it begins with the 140.39 i think) this feature will not working. I must change manually the Source from HD1 to HD2 (BluRay) and then back. After them it is working until to the next restart. Such a shame, Philips! So it is proofed again: Older is better

On 140.34 I am currently experiencing that Net TV is not working anymore (no connection to the server possible). According to Philips I would need to upgrade to 140.47 to enable this again - but I won't do this, because of image quality (and I have also Net TV possible via my BDP). Nevertheless - as you downgraded to 140.34: is your Net TV also not functioning?

[punschula]

I cant answer this question, because i dont use this function any more..

[ali54]

can philips tell us why the pictuer quailty keep geting worse with all the new updates 0.34 is best one right now but still no where good as 0.25 this is madness

[Philips - Thomas]

Hi

everyone is talking about "bad" pictures, can you please provide us with some more detailed informations.
Also good would be Pictures!

Regards
Thomas

[punschula]

Hi

everyone is talking about "bad" pictures, can you please provide us with some more detailed informations.
Also good would be Pictures!

Regards
Thomas

Hi Thomas,
i am shure, Philips have more than 1 Model from the 8506 Series and also they have Version 140.34 and 140.47 to compaire both side by side. If not, so maybe we can make a donate for the Development? I have described the differents (sight from my site) with the following points: The sharpness and the cloudlessness from the picture is in the 140.34 much better than in 140.47. Also the Blacklevel are more "black". And the automatically resizing from any HD-stations sending a movie with black bars left and right will work to fullsize-zoom only with the 140.34, in later Firmwares this dont work automatic! In this case you must force the function with switching during different HDMI-Sources (for example from HDMI-1 to HDMI 2 BluRay and then back!) This is horrible situation. Why dont work this not in later Firmwares? Why undisturbing this dysfunction Philips?

[ali54]

thomas thank you for your replay this is a first time some one from philips has ask us whats wrong with pictuer quality.ok with old softwears the pictuer was more inky strong black level and sharpeer
now with new softwears not only the pictuer its not as strong as before.lot of the times the pictuer is flat no depth and on some scens looks wash out

[Freddy]

On 140.34 I am currently experiencing that Net TV is not working anymore (no connection to the server possible). According to Philips I would need to upgrade to 140.47 to enable this again - but I won't do this, because of image quality (and I have also Net TV possible via my BDP). Nevertheless - as you downgraded to 140.34: is your Net TV also not functioning?

Can you still make a connection to other devices on your network (PC through DLNA for example)?... I ask, to figure out if the network connection on your tv itself is still working.

If the network connection is still working, then some of the Philips guys here will probably be able to get you back on NetTV, by providing them with more detailed info through PM.
There is no real reason for older firmwares (140.34 and earlier) not to connect to NetTV. The only ones having intrinsic network difficulties are 140.36/37/39.

[gidagap]

Hi

everyone is talking about "bad" pictures, can you please provide us with some more detailed informations.
Also good would be Pictures!

Regards
Thomas

The best picture quality was in FW 0.75.60.1. Can you compare this one with newers to see himself?

[petasis]

Hi

everyone is talking about "bad" pictures, can you please provide us with some more detailed informations.
Also good would be Pictures!

Regards
Thomas

I second that. I have asked many times for a comparison.
Is there a volunteer that will post some images of the same scenes with firmware 0.34 and 0.47?

I haven't observed that, and obviously Philips is not aware of such a problem in picture quality.
Posting images may help make other users understand, and Philips identify any problems, if they exist.
How can this be solved, if it has not been identified first?

[ali54]

I second that. I have asked many times for a comparison.
Is there a volunteer that will post some images of the same scenes with firmware 0.34 and 0.47?

I haven't observed that, and obviously Philips is not aware of such a problem in picture quality.
Posting images may help make other users understand, and Philips identify any problems, if they exist.
How can this be solved, if it has not been identified first?

you say how can they idenfied the problem its eazy philips have 9000 and 8000 models in there work shops and they must have old and new softwears so they can run tests.also you can do this test for your self as you own 9705 and you no where to download the old softwears.i think it be hard to show such difrrence by showing pictuers. its not like a big line down the screen where you be able to see in a photo

[Philips - Thomas]

Hi Guys

the thing is that we can not see here any differences in picture quality.
If you in fact do see differences then we need your impressions to understand what is going on, you can do that by pictures or even videos.

Regards
Thomas