Your experiences with FW v0.140.47.0 for 8xx5 and 9xx5 series (2010 models)

[ali54]

Thanks! It's good to know that there can be an improvement.

How can I find what week my TV is?

The serial number is: VN 1B 1038

that means your tv is week 38 with old hardwear and old stand by softwear the only way to fix the 3d crosstalk is by changing them things you can ask philips to change it the parts and softwear

[Paladium]

From which week on is the hardware more 3D capable then?

that means your tv is week 38 with old hardwear and old stand by softwear the only way to fix the 3d crosstalk is by changing them things you can ask philips to change it the parts and softwear

[ali54]

From which week on is the hardware more 3D capable then?

week 46 and up from what i rember

[Paladium]

@ali54
Thanks mate. My 9705 is from week 36. My long awaited PTA516 glasses should come in tomorrow, wish me luck

[gad]

that means your tv is week 38 with old hardwear and old stand by softwear the only way to fix the 3d crosstalk is by changing them things you can ask philips to change it the parts and softwear

Thanks for your advice.

Does this mean that the panel has to be changed or is it a minor hardware change?

Would Philips bother since the TV is 1.5 years old?

[gad]

@ali54
Thanks mate. My 9705 is from week 36. My long awaited PTA516 glasses should come in tomorrow, wish me luck

Let us know, how it goes with your new glasses!

[Paladium]

Had some minor problems getting it to work. PTA 516 (V3) does what it's supposed to do, no humming sound as the earlier revision. For me personally the shutter frequency is to low.
Have been watching Pirates of the Carribean and a TT of Man documentary. 3D quality at it's best is somewhat convincing but not as brilliant as shown on more modern TV sets or as Philips claimed in 2010 a "truly immersive 3D movie experience".
In 3D mode local dimming is off. So you need to select a smart picture setting like Vivid to cranck up the backlight.
Plain annoying is the pop-up asking if you really, really want to see the detected BD disk in 3D.

Philips 46PFL9705 sw 47
Yamaha YSP-4100 sw 7.03
Philips BDP8000 sw 1.63
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[Toengel]

Hi,

on the other side one need to know, that 2010 TVs are the first 3D generation (at Philips).

But good to know, that your glasses are buzzing-free now.

Toengel@Alex

[Paladium]

Hi Toengel,

First of all congrats with your wedding

Wether it's the first generation or not to me it doesn't live up to the claim "truly immersive 3D movie experience".
On the other hand the excellent picture quality in 2D (OK for some reason not in the latest FW updates ) combined with Ambilight still is very hard to beat by LCD tv's from other brands even in more recent models.

If asked what brand to choose when buying a new LCD right now it would be difficult to go for Philips again. After about 18 monhs of owning a 46PFL9705 the only pro's are the unique selling points of the 9xxx series beiing the excellent picture quality (local dimming) and the Ambilight. Con's would be the constant user input to keep the thing up and running due to buggy software. You could read all about it in my postings over here.

[Chrissie18]

Had some minor problems getting it to work. PTA 516 (V3) does what it's supposed to do, no humming sound as the earlier revision. For me personally the shutter frequency is to low.

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Hi Paladium,

Did you first owned the PTA's that were buzzing?
I own two of them and they are buzzing...

Chris.

[Paladium]

@Chrissie18

Didn't own one of the former revisions myself. Was warned about the humming/buzzing problem (fora and at Toengels excellent blog) with them so I decided to wait untill V3 was released.

[ali54]

cant buy the 516 here in uk any more they are selling the 517 now
@paladium you are right i have seen the 2d pictuer geting worse over time with the new updates i also own
46" 9705 i wish i could go back to the good old 0.25 but i cant there for my next tv be samsung or panasoinc

[gad]

Had some minor problems getting it to work. PTA 516 (V3) does what it's supposed to do, no humming sound as the earlier revision. For me personally the shutter frequency is to low.
Have been watching Pirates of the Carribean and a TT of Man documentary. 3D quality at it's best is somewhat convincing but not as brilliant as shown on more modern TV sets or as Philips claimed in 2010 a "truly immersive 3D movie experience".

It's good to know that at least 3d is watchable with your TV.

In my case the crosstalk on my week 38 46PFL9705 is so bad that it's impossible to watch anything 3d without wrecking my head.

I would agree with you that the experience I had so far with my 46PFL9705 is so bad, that even though I was buying just Philips TVs all my life (all top range models), I decided never to buy Philips again. I just want to fix and salvage, whatever is salvageable, with my current TV and keep it another year or two, and then I'm never looking back again.

There's so many bugs and problems with this TV.

The ones that annoy me most right now, are:
1) Picture and ambilight settings keep resetting every now and then
2) Now and next, isn't there, nor will it ever be implemented according to Philips (that's a bad one for me)
3) 3d crosstalk is very bad - I hope this can be improved

So right now I'm placing my hopes on improving 3d, to get just a bit more out of this expensive TV.

[Paladium]

@gad

Problem 1 and 3 should be a warranty claim beiing faulty hardware/software.
Problem 2 Although I appreciate your personal view on this Philips never claimed it was one of the features so at the most it could be considered as poor judgement from Philips not to implement it.

Good luck

[Erikrijnders]

Paladium: look at the specs of this tv on internet: EPG NOW/NEXT is for sure in the specs. So Philips claims its there, but it isnot. There is no consumer on earth wo would epect that this isnot a now/next box when zapping!!!!!! (Because Philips hides everthing under buttons one never uses).

With EPG NOW/NEXT every consumer expects a now/next box when zapping with the program info.

From the Dutch site: 37PFL8605/H12 (my tv)

http://www.philips.nl/c/televisie/80...specifications

Elektronische programmagids: Nu + Straks EPG, Elektronische programmagids voor 8 dagen*