Your experiences with FW v0.140.47.0 for 8xx5 and 9xx5 series (2010 models)

[Paladium]

An EPG is on board, has the now/next feature and provides details for 8 days ahead is what I read.
I'll guess it's the ease of use (or the lack of it) that bothers you.

[Erikrijnders]

ease of use is indead what bothers me, no consumer expects that you have to press a lot of buttons before you can see what program is on and next. As a consumer buying this tv you expect a now/next box when zapping when reading the specs. like on all other brands.

[gad]

@gad

Problem 1 and 3 should be a warranty claim beiing faulty hardware/software.
Problem 2 Although I appreciate your personal view on this Philips never claimed it was one of the features so at the most it could be considered as poor judgement from Philips not to implement it.

Good luck

And in one hour my TV will be collected to be repaired!

I hope these annoying problems (1 and 3) are solved!

Thanks for your advice guys!!!

As far as 2 is concerned, I agree with Erikrijnders, that when I was reading the specs and all reviews and after a thorough research before buying the TV, I had never ever thought that the most simple functionality of Now/Next would be so backwards/awkwardly implemented.
It is so weird that to view the EPG or what is "Now on" you have to see a big black screen with no sound that stops whatever you are watching! That for me was very unexpected from such a high end TV, whilst low end cheap TVs had/have this basic and standard functionality.

That is why I consider this a poor implementation, which is due for a correct fix. Now the fact that they claim that it is unfixable is a different story. I believe that its is fixable but they are simply unwilling to do so.

Anyways!

I hope at least my 3d will be fixed!!!

Will let you know how it goes ...

[Toengel]

Hi,

as I told, I have extreme smearing. Please take a look at: http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...140-47-2010-TV)

Toengel@Alex

[Paladium]

Newest prolem with my 9705:

Have seen this before occasionally but thought a sw update in the past had solved it.
Beginning some two weeks ago when watching TV every now and then the picture freezes then turns to black, ambilight turns off and immediatly the TV restarts stating an external amplifier has been detected (which is correct). This will repeat itself several times.
On one occasion the ambilight didn't come back. Had to enable it myself in the setings menu where it was disabled. Have seen this behaviour with almost all TV channels. Signal strenght and quality are at the same levels as before.

Any ideas or suggestions?

46PFL9705 sw 140.47
BDP8000 sw 1.63
Yamaha YSP4100 sw 7.03
Quantis CI+, ZIGGO cable TV

[Pety99]

Hi,

as I told, I have extreme smearing. Please take a look at: http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...140-47-2010-TV)

Toengel@Alex

Hello
this problem, that the image is blurred during a horisontal movement i saw already when I installed the FW 140.40. Since then it is not as before. My TV is still under warranty do not want to do the downgrade to see if the problem disappears. I use FW 140.46 but the image is not sharp.: Confused:

[TNOL]

@Paladium. post #155: I had the same problem with my 46PFL9705 with SMIT Ci+ card. The problem was that there were digital channels added by the provider (Ziggo in NL). After re-installing all TV channels (analog + digital) the problem was solved.

[rollufje]

Hi all,

Small bug when I choose to disable the internal speakers. I always use an external amp.

The problem is when powering on the TV the built-in speakers are always enabled at first. After a few seconds they get shut down. This is when sound is sent to the TV via HDMI from an external source.

Not very annoying, but it's kinda loud for a few seconds before the internal amp gets cut off....

Maybe a nice touch to fix in the next release

Rolf

40pfl8605
140.047

[rollufje]

BTW,

tomorrow a Philips technician is droppping by to fix / see a problem with my CI+ module connection.
I'm going to show the "blue border" problem also. (see post on page 9: http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...-models)/page9 )

I'll post his opinion / findings.

Rolf

[ch_harald]

Hi all,

Small bug when I choose to disable the internal speakers. I always use an external amp.

The problem is when powering on the TV the built-in speakers are always enabled at first. After a few seconds they get shut down. This is when sound is sent to the TV via HDMI from an external source.

Not very annoying, but it's kinda loud for a few seconds before the internal amp gets cut off....

Maybe a nice touch to fix in the next release

Rolf

40pfl8605
140.047

Hi,
I am also using always external amp. You can avoid the "noise" at start-up (until the external amp takes over) by putting the volume of the internal speakers to Zero (this works - at least for my 9705 - independent from the volume set at the external amp).
BR
Harald

[rollufje]

Hi,
I am also using always external amp. You can avoid the "noise" at start-up (until the external amp takes over) by putting the volume of the internal speakers to Zero (this works - at least for my 9705 - independent from the volume set at the external amp).
BR
Harald

Hi Harald,

Thanks for the solution. I'm going to try it.

Rolf

[Paladium]

Let's see if I get this right: this restarting occurs after a single update ? Or after every update ?

@Paladium. post #155: I had the same problem with my 46PFL9705 with SMIT Ci+ card. The problem was that there were digital channels added by the provider (Ziggo in NL). After re-installing all TV channels (analog + digital) the problem was solved.

[TNOL]

Let's see if I get this right: this restarting occurs after a single update ? Or after every update ?

Until now I experienced this restarting only once. It was after the adding and/or rearranging of the regional channels on the Ziggo network in NL.

When I see the message at the bottom of the screen, that there is a channel update and that the channels will be updated during next standby, I immediately re-install all channels.

With this method I had no spontaneous resets anymore.

[Paladium]

Havn't seen this particular message for a very long time.

Is it possible to get any statement from Philips on this ? I.e. is this a normal behaviour and should the user re-install channels every time a cable provider sends out an update ?

Until now I experienced this restarting only once. It was after the adding and/or rearranging of the regional channels on the Ziggo network in NL.

When I see the message at the bottom of the screen, that there is a channel update and that the channels will be updated during next standby, I immediately re-install all channels.

With this method I had no spontaneous resets anymore.

[Paladium]

Yesterday immediatly after turning on the TV the rebooting started again. While leaving the other devices connected to the TV turned on I turned off the TV (both via RC and hard switch) pulled the power plug and waited a few minutes before turning on the TV again. After that (untill now) I have had no problems.

Beats the plain time consuming and over-complicated procedure of re-installing and rearranging the TV channels again.

Any users around here who might know or suspect the root cause of this behaviour ?

Until now I experienced this restarting only once. It was after the adding and/or rearranging of the regional channels on the Ziggo network in NL.

When I see the message at the bottom of the screen, that there is a channel update and that the channels will be updated during next standby, I immediately re-install all channels.

With this method I had no spontaneous resets anymore.