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    BDP3280/12 AVCHD/Blu-Ray playback problem

    Hi,

    I recorded many videos from german television with my dreambox.
    When I put the ts-files onto a usb flash drive or burn them on DVD/Blu Ray (data disc) everything plays fine.
    MKV works fine too, seems to be fixed a while ago.
    http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...-mkv-container

    When I create an AVCHD-DVD or Blu-Ray from the same recordings the video is stuttering extremly.
    It happens with all 720p footage, 1080i is okay.

    MediaInfo:

    1. TS
    Code:
    Format                                   : MPEG-TS
    File size                                : 2.53 GiB
    Duration                                 : 46mn 57s
    Overall bit rate                         : 7 709 Kbps
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 6010 (0x177A)
    Menu ID                                  : 11100 (0x2B5C)
    Format                                   : AVC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                           : High@L4.0
    Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames                : 5 frames
    Format settings, GOP                     : M=16, N=32
    Codec ID                                 : 27
    Duration                                 : 46mn 57s
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 6 358 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                         : 11.5 Mbps
    Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
    Height                                   : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate                               : 50.000 fps
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.138
    Stream size                              : 2.09 GiB (82%)
    Color primaries                          : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
    Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709-5, BT.1361
    Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
    2. MKV

    Code:
    Format                                   : Matroska
    Format version                           : Version 1
    File size                                : 2.30 GiB
    Duration                                 : 46mn 59s
    Overall bit rate                         : 7 000 Kbps
    Encoded date                             : UTC 2012-04-16 09:06:09
    Writing library                          : Haali DirectShow Matroska Muxer 1.11.96.14
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 1
    Format                                   : AVC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                           : High@L4.0
    Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames                : 5 frames
    Format settings, GOP                     : M=16, N=32
    Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration                                 : 46mn 59s
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 5 901 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                         : 11.5 Mbps
    Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
    Height                                   : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate                               : 50.000 fps
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.128
    Stream size                              : 1.94 GiB (84%)
    Title                                    : PID 6010 Video
    Color primaries                          : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
    Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709-5, BT.1361
    Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
    3. AVCHD/Blu Ray

    Code:
    Format                                   : BDAV
    Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
    File size                                : 2.32 GiB
    Duration                                 : 46mn 58s
    Overall bit rate                         : 7 061 Kbps
    Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mbps
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
    Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
    Format                                   : AVC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                           : High@L4.0
    Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames                : 5 frames
    Format settings, GOP                     : M=16, N=32
    Codec ID                                 : 27
    Duration                                 : 46mn 58s
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 6 325 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                         : 11.5 Mbps
    Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
    Height                                   : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate                               : 50.000 fps
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.137
    Stream size                              : 2.08 GiB (90%)
    Color primaries                          : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
    Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709-5, BT.1361
    Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
    Looking forward to your reply.
    Best regards

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    Hi,

    I figured out a couple of things:

    - the 3280/12 is able to play Main@L4.0 content
    - it can play AVCHD/BR files from usb drive
    You have to create a folder "AVCHD" to root of USB flash drive and into that folder copy the BDMV directory.

    Relating to the AVCHD/Blu-Ray playback problem, I noticed that it has nothing to do with 720p or 1080i. I recorded some 720p stuff from Austrian and Swiss TV channels and they work fine (mkv and AVCHD)

    for example:
    Code:
    Format                           : BDAV
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
    File size                        : 26.3 MiB
    Duration                         : 22s 120ms
    Overall bit rate                 : 9 978 Kbps
    Maximum Overall bit rate         : 35.5 Mbps
    
    Video
    ID                               : 4113 (0x1011)
    Menu ID                          : 1 (0x1)
    Format                           : AVC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                   : Main@L4.0
    Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames        : 2 frames
    Format settings, GOP             : M=3, N=12
    Codec ID                         : 27
    Duration                         : 22s 180ms
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 9 126 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                 : 9 000 Kbps
    Width                            : 1 280 pixels
    Height                           : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
    Frame rate                       : 50.000 fps
    Color space                      : YUV
    Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                        : 8 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.198
    Stream size                      : 24.1 MiB (92%)
    Color primaries                  : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
    Transfer characteristics         : BT.709-5, BT.1361
    Matrix coefficients              : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
    or

    Code:
    Format                           : BDAV
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
    File size                        : 20.3 MiB
    Duration                         : 15s 200ms
    Overall bit rate                 : 11.2 Mbps
    Maximum Overall bit rate         : 35.5 Mbps
    
    Video
    ID                               : 4113 (0x1011)
    Menu ID                          : 1 (0x1)
    Format                           : AVC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                   : High@L4.0
    Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames        : 3 frames
    Format settings, GOP             : M=2, N=24
    Codec ID                         : 27
    Duration                         : 15s 300ms
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 10.3 Mbps
    Maximum bit rate                 : 40.0 Mbps
    Width                            : 1 280 pixels
    Height                           : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
    Frame rate                       : 50.000 fps
    Standard                         : Component
    Color space                      : YUV
    Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                        : 8 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.223
    Stream size                      : 18.7 MiB (92%)
    Color primaries                  : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
    Transfer characteristics         : BT.709-5, BT.1361
    Matrix coefficients              : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
    Therefore I think the AVCHD/Blu-Ray playback problem with german television has to do with:

    Code:
    Format settings, ReFrames                : 5 frames
    Format settings, GOP                     : M=16, N=32
    Would be great if you can fix it. Please tell me if you need a video file to reproduce the problem.

    Regards
    Last edited by JunePaik; 04-17-2012 at 01:26 PM.

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    Did you try with a different framerate already?

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    No, I want to avoid reencoding the video.

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    I understand that but looking at the other thread when user did this it solved the problem....worth a try and to let us know the outcome

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    hi there,
    when i look into the codec table (your model is a 2011 model), it only support these video formats:
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    hence, ts, bdav, may not be supported. also when you look at the frame rate, it's from 6-30. here you have 50. so this may lead to playability issue.

    i also share the same thought with oscar, maybe you hv to convert/ encode your files again.
    Last edited by Philips - QK; 04-19-2012 at 05:29 AM.

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