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    Thumbs up Phasing-in YouTube leanback on 2011 devices.

    As soon as 2011 TV’s and 2011 Bluray players get a software upgrade the current YouTube Application will automatically be replaced with the new YouTube leanback App.

    YouTube leanback offers instant playback of full screen video in HD quality!
    It is defined by YouTube as the standard for YouTube on TV!

    The user interface is based on comfort when using it via the remote control, with instantly and continuously playback of the videos, selected per category.

    Also take a look here.

    Remarks:

    - At first use of YouTube leanback a pop-up message can be shown, reporting availability of a software upgrade. Just click for approval.

    - At start of YouTube leanback, a loading indicator is shown. This will take seconds, up to one minute, depending on your internet speed.

    - After the loading indicator, YouTube starts immediately with playback of a video. Up, down and OK button will trigger menu options.

    - Due to hardware limitations, the 2009 and 2010 TV’s & 2009 and 2010 Bluray-players will not be able to access YouTube leanback. Here the current YouTube version remains.

    - 3D is supported.

    - The log-in option in YouTube leanback is not yet offered in this application. It will be implemented in a next release.

    - The YouTube Icon in the App gallery did not change, but when installed it, it is recognizable by a red and black YouTube logo.

    - The software upgrade is provided automatically.
    Last edited by Philips admin; 12-02-2011 at 09:28 AM. Reason: Added link.
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    I donīt believe hardware limitation for 2010 tv. 2010 and 2011 have same architecture (TV550) and similar processor (Same tipe PNX85500). You can see in Service Manual you can get in Internet.
    Philips doesnīt want to update tv. Philips doesnīt want to work. Philips want that you buy a new tv. With Philips you get obsolescence in one year.
    Is shameful.
    People will buy a 2011 tv get obsolesce in 2012. Maybe support flash player.

    Philips reply, donīt be quiet
    Last edited by xMen; 10-07-2011 at 01:48 PM.

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    Does the YouTube leanback work the same
    as on this Google TV demo?
    Last edited by Corneel; 10-07-2011 at 01:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xMen View Post
    ....With Philips you get obsolescence in one year. Is shameful. Philips reply, donīt be quiet
    Hi xMen,

    Not only Philips. I assume that you do not have an iPhone or iPad or other gadget?
    Even if this it is the case, what's wrong with it?
    It is normal behaviour in this kind of industry.
    They also have to make money....

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    The industry are similar but not equal. There is some differences. When a brand donīt update his devices you have to say it. Some Philips tv cost 4000 €. It is unethical get obsolescence in one year.

    Itīs shameful

    Philips reply, donīt be quiet.
    Last edited by xMen; 10-07-2011 at 02:56 PM.

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    In November 2010 I've spent 1000€ on my Philips TV (37PFL7605), which is proving to be a boat anchor.
    Less than a year!

    I don't believe in hardware limitations, there are other NetTV services that offer HD videos.
    As someone else said here, it's a FHD TV!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xMen View Post
    I donīt believe hardware limitation for 2010 tv. 2010 and 2011 have same architecture (TV550) and similar processor (Same tipe PNX85500). You can see in Service Manual you can get in Internet.
    Philips doesnīt want to update tv. Philips doesnīt want to work. Philips want that you buy a new tv. With Philips you get obsolescence in one year.
    Is shameful.
    People will buy a 2011 tv get obsolesce in 2012. Maybe support flash player.

    Philips reply, donīt be quiet
    If we could standardize to just one YouTube version for all devices, that would be far more efficient for us.
    So if we could we would, but this version of YouTube leanback fails on 2010/2009 sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corneel View Post
    Does the YouTube leanback work the same
    as on this Google TV demo?
    It is almost the same, we have additionally an onscreen keyboard for text-entering in search modus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philips - Mark View Post
    So if we could we would,
    Nobody believes it. For Philips is more profitable that people buy a new tv. Philips' goal is not the satisfaction of people,

    TV Philips could make tv 2010 record USB, but Philips doesīnt want. Jointspace allows control tv with smartphones or tablet, but Philips doesnīnt want that tv be controlled with keyboard.
    2010 y 2011 have the same hardware. You see images in the folowing link how hardware 2010 and 2011 tv has same processor:

    2010 tv 58pfl9955h costs 4200 € and 2011 32pfl6606h costs 500 €. 2010 tv 58pfl5599h can not play youtbe leanback and 2011 32pfl6606h can. Nobody believes it.

    Philips want the people spend more money to buy new tv.

    It is shameful.

    Philips explain it.
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    I have heard the youtube is using flash for the youtube leanback. Is this true? Does 2011 TVs have to bring basic support for flash to support youtube leanback or do they also provide a flashless interface?

    I'm just interested in the future of flash and the usage in such products? Can you offer more details on technical realisation?

    It's just interesting, because the new vimeo app offers a really good interface and great video quality. Why need flash support?

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    If you have the service manual, then you must read all the manual.
    Of course itīs the same platform, but whit different chip set.
    Platform TV550 have at list 3 different releases (2009?, 2010, 2011)

    Different pnx are in use, pnx85500 itīs only a generic name.
    If you donīt now, ask, do not say wrong ideas.
    Different modelīs on 2011 may have different pnx.

    58PFL9955H/12
    PNX85507EB

    32PFL6606H/12
    PNX85537EB


    Quote Originally Posted by xMen View Post
    Nobody believes it. For Philips is more profitable that people buy a new tv. Philips' goal is not the satisfaction of people,

    TV Philips could make tv 2010 record USB, but Philips doesīnt want. Jointspace allows control tv with smartphones or tablet, but Philips doesnīnt want that tv be controlled with keyboard.
    2010 y 2011 have the same hardware. You see images in the folowing link how hardware 2010 and 2011 tv has same processor.

    2010 tv 58pfl9955h costs 4200 € and 2011 32pfl6606h costs 500 €. 2010 tv 58pfl5599h can not play youtbe leanback and 2011 32pfl6606h can. Nobody believes it.

    Philips want the people spend more money to buy new tv.
    It is shameful. Philips explain it.
    Last edited by Philips admin; 11-24-2011 at 09:31 AM. Reason: Removed link.

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    The Service Manual say exactly:
    The Q552.2E LA (2011) is part of the TV550 platform, is a derivative
    from the Q552.1E LA (2010) and uses the (SAME) PNX855xx chipset.
    The major deltas versus its predecessor Q551 are:
    • support of DVB-T2 (“second generation” DVBT)
    • implementation of “passive” 3D
    • removal of TCON from the SSB (comes with the display)
    • changed power architecture
    • new USB hub

    The SAME (similar) processor and no difference about net tv.
    Net tv capabilities of both processors are the same. Nobody believes that pnx85500 (2010) arenīt able to process Youtube Leanback. Simply Philips is interested in differentiating 2011 ranges and Philips donīt want to work more time in 2010 ranges. Otherwise Philips want that people run to spend more money buying a new tv.

    Is also the fact nobody believes that 2010 ranges tv havenīt capability to record. But Philips doesnīt want 2010 tv record. Watch this video made by Philips in wich appear 9705 (2010) with function record:



    But it is a lie more of Philips.

    Philips why are you be quiet? Say something
    Philips reply, please, donīt be quiet about my comments.
    Last edited by xMen; 10-12-2011 at 07:10 AM.

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    Hi,

    there are more differences in the hardware...

    Also you can be sure that Philips would also like to have the same YouTube app on all Net TV devices, but YouTube seems to use features which are only available in 2011 models... For example, the integrated Opera web browser is different in the different series (2010, 2011,...). The 2011 series supports more.

    Regarding the video - did you ever heard of marketing? If you take a look at the video, you can also see, that there are pictures displayed. Also the "Pause" funktion - the frog video is used at many occations within Philips marketing... Don't focus on such videos. Take a look at the product spread sheets and the manual of a product - that's what really count!

    Toengel@Alex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel View Post
    ....Of course itīs the same platform, but whit different chip set.
    Platform TV550 have at list 3 different releases (2009?, 2010, 2011)

    Different pnx are in use, pnx85500 itīs only a generic name.
    If you donīt now, ask, do not say wrong ideas. Different modelīs on 2011 may have different pnx.

    58PFL9955H/12
    PNX85507EB

    32PFL6606H/12
    PNX85537EB
    @Manuel and @Toengel,
    I fully agree with you both. The "xx" in PNX855xx aren't there for nothing. It would have been strange if Philips used exactly the same chip for 3 years in a row....

    @xMen
    It is a fact that product life cycles become shorter and shorter. This is modern life, and they even have a word for it: "progress"!
    I'm sure it is the same for other (mass-production) brands. Also the car you bought 3 years ago does not have all the features a 2011 model has.
    So stop asking Philips to reply on every post you make. I'm sure they have more/better things to do (see bug-list )

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    Different opera version is not a different hardware.. Repeat all people can watch the service manual and see that no diferrent Net tv capacity exits. Diferent opera version is a diferent software that Philips can update, but Philips doesnīt update because Philips is not interested to update opera to 2010 range because Philips want that ownerīs 2010 tv buy a new tv as soon as possible.

    Otherwise For me, the videos have the same value that product spread sheets. I feel cheated. Toengle doesnīt take into account the peopleīs feelings. It is easy for him, but not for me.

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