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    A Bug with .mp4 and subtitles (.srt/.sub)

    Playing an .mp4 with external subs like .srt or .sub gives flashing subs (subtitle appear, disapper, re-appear)
    Subs work fine for .avi:s and .mkv:s

    It all starts with the loading screen:


    Immediately when i see that, i know the subs arent going to work/auto loaded.
    (for .avis and .mkvs the subtitle is auto loaded.)

    It does not matter whether you playback using usb device or disc.

    Here is an example:


    It is very irritating.

    Please fix.

    Also noticed that .avi:s have auto resume function but not for .mp4 or .mkv.

    Device is BDP5200/12 and tested with firmwares 1.16 to 1.52.

    Nice piece of hardware, too bad about all the software problems.

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    hi luth,
    does that happen to all your mp4+sub? or just this one? this issue is present for 1.16 as well as 1.52?

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    Tested dozens of files.
    Here is the latest results and things ive noticed.

    Every time the loading screen (the three balls) goes from side to side more than 2 times the subs arent going to work.
    For the not properly working videos the loading balls go from side to side about 7-10 times (no idea why loading those files take longer)

    Seems to be .mp4 + .sub problem (when the file loads fast everything works, if file loads slowly the .sub is flashing)

    .mp4 never auto loads subtitle file

    I put some file infos and comments to the following:
    Code:
    For this video the subtitles actually work. The file loads fast and both .srt and .sub work:
    General
    Complete name                    : I:\converter\MOT.Varjele.meitš.douppaamiselta.mp4
    Format                           : MPEG-4
    Format profile                   : Base Media / Version 2
    Codec ID                         : mp42
    File size                        : 176 MiB
    Duration                         : 27mn 26s
    Overall bit rate mode            : Variable
    Overall bit rate                 : 898 Kbps
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-05-11 04:50:10
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-05-11 04:50:11
    Writing application              : mp4creator 1.4.4
    
    Video
    ID                               : 1
    Format                           : AVC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                   : Baseline@L1.3
    Format settings, CABAC           : No
    Format settings, ReFrames        : 2 frames
    Codec ID                         : avc1
    Codec ID/Info                    : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration                         : 27mn 26s
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 770 Kbps
    Width                            : 688 pixels
    Original width                   : 680 pixels
    Height                           : 384 pixels
    Original height                  : 376 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
    Original display aspect ratio    : 16:9
    Frame rate mode                  : Constant
    Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
    Color space                      : YUV
    Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                        : 8 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.117
    Stream size                      : 151 MiB (86%)
    Language                         : English
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-05-11 04:50:10
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-05-11 04:50:10
    
    Audio
    ID                               : 2
    Format                           : AAC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile                   : LC
    Codec ID                         : 40
    Duration                         : 27mn 25s
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 125 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                 : 165 Kbps
    Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
    Channel positions                : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Stream size                      : 24.6 MiB (14%)
    Language                         : English
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-05-11 04:50:10
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-05-11 04:50:11
    **********************************************
    
    This file also starts fast and both .srt and .sub work:
    
    General
    Complete name                            : I:\converter\Eastbound.And.Down.S02E04.x264.mp4
    Format                                   : MPEG-4
    Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
    Codec ID                                 : mp42
    File size                                : 437 MiB
    Duration                                 : 29mn 12s
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 2 091 Kbps
    Encoded date                             : UTC 2012-05-11 05:04:41
    Tagged date                              : UTC 2012-05-11 05:04:43
    Writing application                      : mp4creator 1.4.4
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 1
    Format                                   : AVC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                           : Baseline@L1.3
    Format settings, CABAC                   : No
    Format settings, ReFrames                : 2 frames
    Codec ID                                 : avc1
    Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration                                 : 29mn 12s
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 1 963 Kbps
    Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
    Height                                   : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate mode                          : Constant
    Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.085
    Stream size                              : 410 MiB (94%)
    Language                                 : English
    Encoded date                             : UTC 2012-05-11 05:04:41
    Tagged date                              : UTC 2012-05-11 05:04:43
    
    Audio
    ID                                       : 2
    Format                                   : AAC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile                           : LC
    Codec ID                                 : 40
    Duration                                 : 29mn 12s
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 126 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                         : 148 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Channel positions                        : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Stream size                              : 26.3 MiB (6%)
    Language                                 : English
    Encoded date                             : UTC 2012-05-11 05:04:43
    Tagged date                              : UTC 2012-05-11 05:04:43
    
    The two working files above are made with an universal convertor which produces very poor quality so i really dont want to use it, unless for the last resort.
    
    
    
    For this video .srt sub did work ok but not the .sub. Took a while to load the video.
    (i included subtitle to the .mp4 container aswell, but it didnt show up at all. Maybe .mp4 containers cannot handle inbedded subs or its another bug)
    
    General
    Complete name                    : I:\MOT.Varjele.meitš.douppaamiselta.mp4
    Format                           : MPEG-4
    Format profile                   : Base Media / Version 2
    Codec ID                         : mp42
    File size                        : 223 MiB
    Duration                         : 27mn 26s
    Overall bit rate mode            : Variable
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 136 Kbps
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-05-11 04:23:53
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-05-11 04:25:46
    Writing application              : HandBrake 4418svn 2012012401
    
    Video
    ID                               : 1
    Format                           : AVC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                   : Main@L3.0
    Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames        : 4 frames
    Codec ID                         : avc1
    Codec ID/Info                    : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration                         : 27mn 26s
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 1 000 Kbps
    Width                            : 676 pixels
    Height                           : 376 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
    Frame rate mode                  : Constant
    Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
    Color space                      : YUV
    Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                        : 8 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.157
    Stream size                      : 197 MiB (88%)
    Writing library                  : x264 core 119
    Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=10 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1000 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-05-11 04:23:53
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-05-11 04:25:46
    Color primaries                  : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
    Transfer characteristics         : BT.709-5, BT.1361
    Matrix coefficients              : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
    
    Audio
    ID                               : 2
    Format                           : AAC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile                   : LC
    Codec ID                         : 40
    Duration                         : 27mn 26s
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 128 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                 : 162 Kbps
    Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
    Channel positions                : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Stream size                      : 25.1 MiB (11%)
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-05-11 04:23:53
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-05-11 04:25:45
    
    Text
    ID                               : 3
    Format                           : Timed text
    Muxing mode                      : sbtl
    Codec ID                         : tx3g
    Duration                         : 27mn 22s
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 32 bps
    Stream size                      : 6.47 KiB (0%)
    Language                         : Finnish
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-05-11 04:23:53
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-05-11 04:25:45
    
    ********************************
    
    For this .srt worked, but not .sub. File loaded slow.
    
    General
    Complete name                    : I:\Eastbound.And.Down.S02E04.mp4
    Format                           : MPEG-4
    Format profile                   : Base Media / Version 2
    Codec ID                         : mp42
    File size                        : 343 MiB
    Duration                         : 29mn 12s
    Overall bit rate mode            : Variable
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 640 Kbps
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-05-11 04:27:55
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-05-11 04:35:04
    Writing application              : HandBrake 4418svn 2012012401
    
    Video
    ID                               : 1
    Format                           : AVC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                   : Main@L3.1
    Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames        : 4 frames
    Codec ID                         : avc1
    Codec ID/Info                    : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration                         : 29mn 12s
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 1 500 Kbps
    Width                            : 1 280 pixels
    Height                           : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
    Frame rate mode                  : Variable
    Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
    Minimum frame rate               : 23.974 fps
    Maximum frame rate               : 23.981 fps
    Color space                      : YUV
    Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                        : 8 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.068
    Stream size                      : 308 MiB (90%)
    Writing library                  : x264 core 119
    Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=10 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-05-11 04:27:55
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-05-11 04:35:04
    Color primaries                  : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
    Transfer characteristics         : BT.709-5, BT.1361
    Matrix coefficients              : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
    
    Audio
    ID                               : 2
    Format                           : AAC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile                   : LC
    Codec ID                         : 40
    Duration                         : 29mn 12s
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 160 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                 : 209 Kbps
    Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
    Channel positions                : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Stream size                      : 33.4 MiB (10%)
    Language                         : English
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-05-11 04:27:55
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-05-11 04:35:02
    
    ********************************************
    
    .srt works, but not .sub. File loads slowly.
    
    General
    Complete name                    : I:\Supernatural.S07E21.mp4
    Format                           : MPEG-4
    Format profile                   : Base Media
    Codec ID                         : isom
    File size                        : 238 MiB
    Duration                         : 41mn 43s
    Overall bit rate mode            : Variable
    Overall bit rate                 : 798 Kbps
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-05-03 18:25:54
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-05-03 18:25:54
    
    Video
    ID                               : 1
    Format                           : AVC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                   : High@L3.1
    Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames        : 5 frames
    Codec ID                         : avc1
    Codec ID/Info                    : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration                         : 41mn 43s
    Bit rate                         : 673 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                 : 4 326 Kbps
    Width                            : 720 pixels
    Height                           : 406 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
    Frame rate mode                  : Constant
    Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
    Color space                      : YUV
    Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                        : 8 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.096
    Stream size                      : 201 MiB (84%)
    Writing library                  : x264 core 124 r2197 69a0443
    Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=19.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-05-04 16:30:05
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-05-03 18:26:00
    Matrix coefficients              : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
    
    Audio
    ID                               : 2
    Format                           : AAC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile                   : LC
    Codec ID                         : 40
    Duration                         : 41mn 43s
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 121 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                 : 144 Kbps
    Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
    Channel positions                : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Stream size                      : 36.2 MiB (15%)
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-05-03 18:25:58
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-05-03 18:26:00
    
    *****************************************
    
    
    Loads slowly, .srt works .sub flashes.
    
    General
    Complete name                    : I:\fringe.415.mp4
    Format                           : MPEG-4
    Format profile                   : Base Media
    Codec ID                         : isom
    File size                        : 223 MiB
    Duration                         : 43mn 14s
    Overall bit rate mode            : Variable
    Overall bit rate                 : 720 Kbps
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-03-23 16:20:13
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-03-23 16:20:13
    
    Video
    ID                               : 1
    Format                           : AVC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                   : High@L3.1
    Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames        : 5 frames
    Codec ID                         : avc1
    Codec ID/Info                    : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration                         : 43mn 14s
    Bit rate                         : 592 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                 : 3 258 Kbps
    Width                            : 720 pixels
    Height                           : 404 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
    Frame rate mode                  : Constant
    Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
    Color space                      : YUV
    Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                        : 8 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.085
    Stream size                      : 183 MiB (82%)
    Writing library                  : x264 core 122 r2184 5c85e0a
    Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:1:1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-03-23 16:00:54
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-03-23 16:20:17
    Matrix coefficients              : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
    
    Audio
    ID                               : 2
    Format                           : AAC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile                   : LC
    Codec ID                         : 40
    Duration                         : 43mn 14s
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 124 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                 : 148 Kbps
    Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
    Channel positions                : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Stream size                      : 38.3 MiB (17%)
    Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-03-23 16:20:17
    Tagged date                      : UTC 2012-03-23 16:20:17
    
    *******************************************
    
    
    
    Example for working .mkv:
    
    General
    Unique ID                        : 87272954954773527844533510331300977956 (0x41A828E3F3725BC2D4BF8BF533421D24)
    Complete name                    : I:\Fringe.405.mkv
    Format                           : Matroska
    Format version                   : Version 2
    File size                        : 313 MiB
    Duration                         : 42mn 54s
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 021 Kbps
    Writing application              : HandBrake 4418svn
    Writing library                  : libmkv 0.6.5
    
    Video
    ID                               : 1
    Format                           : AVC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                   : Main@L3.0
    Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames        : 4 frames
    Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration                         : 42mn 54s
    Nominal bit rate                 : 900 Kbps
    Width                            : 624 pixels
    Height                           : 352 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
    Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
    Color space                      : YUV
    Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                        : 8 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.171
    Writing library                  : x264 core 119
    Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=10 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=900 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
    Language                         : English
    Default                          : Yes
    Forced                           : No
    Color primaries                  : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
    Transfer characteristics         : BT.709-5, BT.1361
    Matrix coefficients              : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
    
    Audio
    ID                               : 2
    Format                           : AAC
    Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile                   : LC
    Codec ID                         : A_AAC
    Duration                         : 42mn 54s
    Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
    Channel positions                : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Default                          : Yes
    Forced                           : No
    **************************************
    Tests are done with FW 1.52

    for .avi and .mkv files both .srt and .sub work fine and the video file is loaded very fast:

    Also just noticed that font styling does not work. <i>Tags like these.</i> are just plain text.
    If the subtitle is included inside .mkv container the styles do work. But not for external subs like .srt or .sub.

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    Ok so it seems .srt is also suffering this flashing.
    Its not as bad as with .sub so i did not saw it immediately.

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    Dear Luth,

    Could you pass us the .mp4 file & .sub file for a check?
    You can upload this through www.wetransfer.com putting your email as the sender and then give us the short URL.

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    Dear Luth,

    Thanks a lot for your PM. I have downloaded your informative package. Will pass to development team to look into your issue.

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    Dear Luth,

    I have sent you a PM. Please check you inbox.

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    Dear Luth,

    Thanks for sending over files for testing and videos to understand the issue you are now experiencing.

    We have tested your files and we wonder if you have the same testing results like ours:
    From the package of files you sent, the orginal file works fine with .sub and .srt file. However, the subtitle blinks issue was seen in all other re-encoded files. We suspect that is because of the .sub file and we are now checking on that. The workaround we can think of is to use the .srt file for the moment.

    We will let you know more if we have more investigation results. Meanwhile, if you have any input that you think you can provide, please send forth to us by PM or by posting in this thread.

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    Thank you for taking time with this.
    The youtube video clip in the first post is made with the original video file + the .sub i provided.
    The blink issue is clearly visible. The combo original+sub is blinking for me.

    If i use .srt subtitle it is much better, the blinking only happens every now and then.
    If i convert the video file to anything else than .mp4, like .avi for example there are no problems.
    The same .sub and .srt works fine.

    Maybe you just checked the original+srt if you didnt see the blink?
    Like i said .srt:s work much better but still occasionally blink.

    For a workaround i have been converting .mp4:s to .avis for now, but it takes time with slow comp :/

    Also this problem is with every .mp4:s and .sub:s i have tried.
    The file(s) i sent to you is just one example.

    Same subtitle file works just great with .avi or .mkv.

    Cheers.

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    Dear Luth,

    Yes, this is what I have feedback to the development team also - this is just an example.
    It is tested by 2 different colleagues on 2 different BDP5200 that the original file is working. I will check with them again to see if they were using .srt or .sub.

    I will let you know if we have updates here on our side. Thanks.

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    Thanks for the update.

    One time i tested the file i got surprised "wohoo it works" but then i realized i was using the .srt which works better.
    Hitting the subtitle button first loads .srt and .sub comes second.

    I only put the srt file in the "original" folder. Which might explain why some people thinks the "original" file is working properly if accidentaly checking the .srt only (which works better but still blinks sometimes).

    Would be strange if any of the files i sent are working ok with your colleagues since every of those files are suffering from this problem.
    They blink excatly on the same time with every file.

    But deffinitely good news is that the file worked ok when you tested it with the different BDP models. So it can be fixed with software fine tuning

    Please let me know if i can help in anyway.
    Sending more test files or subtitle files or anything.

    Thanks.

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    Dear Luth,

    We are sorry to tell you that though we are able to reproduce with your issue, this is by system limitation that our platform only supports .sub with DivX/MKV files.

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    Too bad but at least we know this now.

    Do you know any other philips BDP model(s) which would work ok?

    I might want to upgrade my BDP.

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    Dear Luth,

    We will check with our platform team, as it is a platform limitation almost all of our BDP/HTS will have this issue. We will also see if there's any workaround. Will update you on this.

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