We need YOUR help: which application do you like to see on Net TV?

[JCBastosPortela]

Interesting, because most of the websites, I just get the URL for the .mp4 stream and my Raspberry just plays the file. BTW, mas raspberry does not have flash installed, and it decodes in the hardware.

What I'm asking is just an application that allows to place an URL to an remote (on the internet) content, like:

(dummy link, just for explaining)
http://someserver.somedomain/somepath/somecontent.mp4

As we can do with VLC (Media > Open Network Stream... > Enter URL ). It must be really simple. I did it to my raspberry (that runs a server that gives me and web based interface) and that I use now connected to the TV, but I would like the TV to do it.

[Philips - Thomas]

Hi,

that will not work as the file needs to be stored on a local drive to play back.
as the TV does not have this....

as written before, if a Video is streamed and the webpage supports html5, it will work.

Thomas

[JCBastosPortela]

Hi,

that will not work as the file needs to be stored on a local drive to play back.
as the TV does not have this....

as written before, if a Video is streamed and the webpage supports html5, it will work.

Thomas

Thomas, I'm sorry, I must be getting something really wrong, but the process of watching a video from YouTube won't be so different from watching a URL stream... Also, if the RAM is not enough (I can understand that), since people has the possibility of plunging and external drive, I don't see it can be a problem. Only the application needs to have and hard drive.

In the other hand, as an software developer (not exactly in multimedia systems) that I am, I do believe that you don't need to store all the file in the memory (also it's a temporary file and the played parts can be erased).

Again come with the example of my raspberry, I can reproduce URL streams without using any hard drive. It only uses enough RAM for buffering.

But if you think it's is impossible, maybe I'll learn about Net TV SDK and I'll give it a try.

[Philips - Thomas]

Hi,

if that would not be the problem, why in the world does youtube then uses flash instead of that very simple way you'd described?....

Anyhow, what you want to do is, of course very simple possible, on an PC running windows or osx, even linux. It don't has to be a 5000GHz PC with 16GB of RAM, so infact it is true that also a raspberry pi can do this (i do have one of my own).

But you expect the TV to be a HTPC which the TV is not.

If you do want to do all the things, why not just use youre Raspberry pi?
Or what about just connecting an HTPC, so you get all you want.

Or you get in touch with our SDK. As a Software Developer, that should not be a problem for you.

Regards
Thomas

[JCBastosPortela]

Hi,

if that would not be the problem, why in the world does youtube then uses flash instead of that very simple way you'd described?....

Anyhow, what you want to do is, of course very simple possible, on an PC running windows or osx, even linux. It don't has to be a 5000GHz PC with 16GB of RAM, so infact it is true that also a raspberry pi can do this (i do have one of my own).

But you expect the TV to be a HTPC which the TV is not.

If you do want to do all the things, why not just use youre Raspberry pi?
Or what about just connecting an HTPC, so you get all you want.

Or you get in touch with our SDK. As a Software Developer, that should not be a problem for you.

Regards
Thomas

Dear Thomas,

first of all, youtube uses its own flash player exactly for forcing you to open their web-site and have their advertisement (as so do so many other service providers). And by the way, you do have stand alone applications that without any browser reproduce the video to you.

If you do want to do all the things, why not just use youre Raspberry pi?

It's exactly what I'm doing nowadays! Unfortunately the performance it provides is just much superior to what I can get from the television, as you for sure should know.

Or what about just connecting an HTPC, so you get all you want.

I wanted to buy a smart TV for a reason! Maybe I ended up not buying a so smart one, but that is my fault, and now I have to live with it.

Or you get in touch with our SDK. As a Software Developer, that should not be a problem for you.

If you may read the title of this discussion: Topic: We need YOUR help: which application do you like to see on Net TV?, I was just making a favor by give an input of a really useful application for most users. It's not my job as a consumer to work to make Philips more valuable by producing application to it, BUT even that I'm already trying to learn Net TV SDK. And BTW, if you read my previous post carefully I stress the fact that I'm not an Multimedia Software Developer! I can tell you that I'm and Embedded systems developer.

In resume, it's grateful to see how does the Philips staff take consumers' opinions, even when they are aware of the highly poor quality of its Smart TV product. Shall I stress Smart TV product! About the product as a television, in my opinion, is the best among the competitors in the same range.

I almost feel sorry for have given an input. Seems that Thomas felt by force to prove me wrong.

Regards,
João Portela

[Philips - Thomas]

Dear João,

i do appreciate the fact that you do have your Point and that you stand for your Point.
The only thing i want to do is to make clear, that not everything you or some other User, is possible. I'm aware that by doing that, I'm not making friends but thats not my intention.

My intention is to make sure, that your expectation is not too high and so the frustration is not to much if your expectations can not be fulfilled.

So again, thank you for making your Point.
I made mine.

Regards
Thomas

[JCBastosPortela]

Dear João,

i do appreciate the fact that you do have your Point and that you stand for your Point.
The only thing i want to do is to make clear, that not everything you or some other User, is possible. I'm aware that by doing that, I'm not making friends but thats not my intention.

My intention is to make sure, that your expectation is not too high and so the frustration is not to much if your expectations can not be fulfilled.

So again, thank you for making your Point.
I made mine.

Regards
Thomas

This is more like an answer that I like to read.

I understand that there are marketing reasons behind those kind of decisions. I know it requires development investment, ... Still, I intended to write down my desire.

I'll try to get some time to learn my new device's platform (already installed Net TV SDK and made it work) and I'll try to contribute to improve it with some application. But also I expect Philips to not let the owners down by discontinuing updates, or not listening to consumers demands. I don't talk about my case, because I requested something that maybe doesn't interest the majority. I see in this forum people "crying out" for a solution for the problem of slow menus... It is true that the latest FW update brought improvements, but it's not enough for a comfortable usage. I really hope that Philips is still working on that.

Well, I should, somehow, apologize for a certain severity in my way of showing my point.

[Jarnimo]

It's true that the firmware became more fast than the previous firmware updates!!

What i like to see it that Philips continues to make this software more faster!

Really there are improvemoments, so far!!! So let's keeping up the good work!!!

Don't forget your previous - 2012 and 2013 series - now that the new (2014) models our coming!!

[AageF]

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