40PFL8605H/12 Supported formats and codecs in detail please

[Dworgian]

I am a new philips user. Got a 8605 last week and tried it with my wd external hdd and flash disk. Played 4 avi files and a mkv. In all 5 of them, I had a sound delay issue which can be temporarily solved by pausing/playing the movie.

Support says I should check if the files are supported by my TV, but in TV Manual I could not find detailed explanation. I know that it supports AVI, MKV MPEG1 2 4, but I have no idea which Codecs does it support.

So I will check my files for codecs with MediaInfo program but first I have to know which codecs my TV support in detail.

Or if I paste mediainfo log here can you tell me if it is supported by my TV or not?

[Toengel]

Hi,

see: http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...TS-and-Blu-ray)

Toengel@Alex

[Dworgian]

TY for fastest reply =)

So if I can find codecs in list, should I contact my philips support?

Or there can be other issues which may effect viewing experience?

(I have not upgraded the firmware yet for example)

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I checked but could not "avi" codecs in "2010tv models xxpflxxx5" part

[Alicia]

I checked but could not "avi" codecs in "2010tv models xxpflxxx5" part

Indeed, Philips must have forgotten it. (I have the same TV as you)

BTW : yesterday I came across the very first avi that the TV wouldn't play: Elephants Dream

Format                           : AVI
Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile                   : OpenDML
Format settings                  : rec
File size                        : 815 MiB
Duration                         : 10mn 53s
Overall bit rate                 : 10.5 Mbps
Writing application              : AVI-Mux GUI 1.17.5, Apr  5 2006  18:41:17

Video
ID                               : 0
Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
Codec ID                         : MP42
Codec ID/Info                    : Microsoft MPEG-4 v2 (pre-standard)
Codec ID/Hint                    : Microsoft
Duration                         : 10mn 53s
Bit rate                         : 10.0 Mbps
Width                            : 1 920 pixels
Height                           : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 24.000 fps
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.201
Stream size                      : 779 MiB (96%)

Audio
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                   : CM (complete main)
Codec ID                         : 2000
Duration                         : 10mn 53s
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                        : 16 bits
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Stream size                      : 34.9 MiB (4%)
Alignment                        : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration             : 64 ms (1.54 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration     : 192 ms
Title                            : ED-CM-5.1-DVD-Final2

I think it's caused by the OpenDML profile. Maybe someone with more knowledge can confirm ?

[Dworgian]

An AVI file that had the sound delay issue;

Format                           : AVI
Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
File size                        : 1.37 GiB
Duration                         : 2h 0mn
Overall bit rate                 : 1 626 Kbps
Writing application              : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
Writing library                  : VirtualDubMod build 2540/release

Video
ID                               : 0
Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                   : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP            : 1
Format settings, QPel            : No
Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix          : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode                      : Packed bitstream
Codec ID                         : XVID
Codec ID/Hint                    : XviD
Duration                         : 2h 0mn
Bit rate                         : 1 168 Kbps
Width                            : 640 pixels
Height                           : 352 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 24.000 fps
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Progressive
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.216
Stream size                      : 1 008 MiB (72%)
Writing library                  : XviD 1.1.0 (UTC 2005-11-22)

Audio
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                   : CM (complete main)
Codec ID                         : 2000
Duration                         : 2h 0mn
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                        : 16 bits
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Stream size                      : 387 MiB (28%)
Alignment                        : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration             : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration     : 500 ms

And a mkv that had the same;

Format                           : Matroska
Format version                   : Version 2
File size                        : 4.82 GiB
Duration                         : 1h 40mn
Overall bit rate                 : 6 845 Kbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2011-07-01 19:42:13
Writing application              : mkvmerge v3.2.0 ('Beginnings') built on Feb 12 2010 16:46:17
Writing library                  : libebml v0.7.9 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 5 frames
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                         : 1h 40mn
Bit rate                         : 5 756 Kbps
Width                            : 1 280 pixels
Height                           : 640 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 2.000
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.293
Stream size                      : 3.96 GiB (82%)
Title                            : 
Writing library                  : x264 core 67 r1139M 1024283
Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=5756 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Language                         : English

Audio #1
ID                               : 2
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                   : CM (complete main)
Codec ID                         : A_AC3
Duration                         : 1h 40mn
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                        : 16 bits
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Stream size                      : 323 MiB (7%)
Title                            : 
Language                         : Turkish

Audio #2
ID                               : 3
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                   : CM (complete main)
Codec ID                         : A_AC3
Duration                         : 1h 40mn
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 640 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                        : 16 bits
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Stream size                      : 462 MiB (9%)
Title                            : 
Language                         : English

[Dworgian]

But in my case the file is played. only with a disturbing sound issue. I see people talking then hear what they say after 1 second or 2.

[Dworgian]

Someone from support team now told me that it could be fixed by setting "audio delay" option.

Will try that in a cpl days when I get back to my tv and update this topic :P

meanwhile I am ready to accept any other solution options

[roberto.portulano]

Good Morning,
I have PHILIPS 32PFL7404/H12 sw: 32pfl7404h_12_fus_ita.zip Q5481_0.26.78.0;
I would have any suggestion to encode file from Mini DV sony Camcorder to H264/AVC;
Could someone help me?
I can work with Nero 10 (Not work with AVCHD transcode)
virtualdub; (H264 wit AVI container)
Super erightsoft (transcode with AVI container but not work on TV; not transcode (error) with MP4 container);
The next days I'll replace mini DV sony with Panasonic Camcorderder HD;
Someone is able to tell me if I'll watch the videos on Philips TV?
Regards

[Philips - Thomas]

Hi

The 7404 does support following Videos:
MPEG1, MPEG2, H.264/MPEG-4 AVC

Please also see the Codec List for your 2k9 TV to get further Details on what Profiles you can use:
http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...and-Blu-ray%29

Regards
Thomas

[JurgenM]

If you are using a mediserver on your network disk (NAS) for example Twonky, the problem lies with that server configuration.


Everything worked fine after buying the TV in november 2010. I could play all formats, but could not RW or FF except for MP3.

I have an IOMEGA NAS 4TB network storage with Twonky on it 6.0.32. and a 32PFL8605H/12. The profile for Philips is not up to date on the Twonky Server. So, what need sto be done is that the Philips engineers contactTwonky to resolve this in the software.

After extensive talks with the supportdesk of Philips, they came up with the remark that I should look at specific .avi, .mkv. .mov formats and post them. The simple fact is that none of these are playable now through the mediabrowser of the TV. The issue lies with the profiles that Philips creates for their TV services in agreement with the software developers of media servers. Twonky is one of the most common media servers.....

I als requested Twonky to upgrade their Philips profile, which they have been promising for more than 6 month's now.

My guess is that Twonky and Philips are in negotiations about the price that Philips has to pay for such a software upgrade.

So, as long as Philips does not take into account the costs needed for software development for these kind of partners, their offer that the media browser works well with DLNA, is very limited.