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    Another issue is here:
    The info bar (ESPN America HD) is trembling when the camera is moving.


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    Why has my PNM issue example video been deleted?
    Last edited by tvkc; 11-26-2012 at 11:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvkc View Post
    Why has my PNM issue example video been deleted?
    Censorship

    I could understand if you were rude or the fault was barely noticeable and you were being pedantic.

    Shame on you Philips, very naughty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvkc View Post
    Why has my PNM issue example video been deleted?
    post on youtube and share link here

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    we said much worse things during the last 117 days (this issue open with no relevant feedback).

    Under Youtube make sure the title and keywords facilitate finding your videos. You can post them as comments to mine.

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    I uploaded two examples of the faulty PNM on youtube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKc3meLCHYM&feature=plcp

    Despite the fact, that the whole picture is colapsing showing the typical artefacts and halos around the credits, look at the "Vox"-logo on the upper left side causing ghost images.
    This is what the picture is all about, when PMN is engaged. Not only when watching SD material but also HD is affected:

    Here's the second example where the infor bar is trambling during an HD football game (ESPN America HD)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETfiju-tqTg&feature=plcp

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    I uploaded two examples of the faulty PNM on youtube.
    As I'm not allowed to post youtube videos, you have to search via youtube

    Perfect Natural Motion Issue 46pfl8007 part 1

    Despite the fact, that the whole picture is colapsing showing the typical artefacts and halos around the credits caused by the floating letters, look at the "Vox"-logo on the upper left side causing ghost images on the left side
    This is what the picture is all about, when PMN is engaged. Not only when watching SD material but also HD is affected. The fast fighting scenes at the very beginning of Lord of the rings are full of errors, so that it's hard to recognize any picture information.

    Here's the second example where the info bar is trambling during a HD football game (ESPN America HD). This is simply annoying when watching a three hour's game!

    Perfect Natural Motion Issue 46pfl8007 part 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvkc View Post
    I uploaded two examples of the faulty PNM on youtube.
    As I'm not allowed to post youtube videos, you have to search via youtube

    Perfect Natural Motion Issue 46pfl8007 part 1

    Despite the fact, that the whole picture is colapsing showing the typical artefacts and halos around the credits caused by the floating letters, look at the "Vox"-logo on the upper left side causing ghost images on the left side
    This is what the picture is all about, when PMN is engaged. Not only when watching SD material but also HD is affected. The fast fighting scenes at the very beginning of Lord of the rings are full of errors, so that it's hard to recognize any picture information.

    Here's the second example where the info bar is trambling during a HD football game (ESPN America HD). This is simply annoying when watching a three hour's game!

    Perfect Natural Motion Issue 46pfl8007 part 2
    Well you could try sending the TVs for repair, if they come back with the same fault or no fault found at least we would know that either Philips cannot fix it or refuse to recognise it as a fault.

    Has anyone tried this?

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    anyone can do this and has the rights:

    The consumer in store can request their choice:
    (when devices does not work as described)



    - eliminate errors or
    - Refund of the amount paid in proportion to the error or
    - replacement of the goods or
    - Refund of the amount paid

    "Store" solves further problems...at the end product arrives back to Philips for reclamation.
    And you get the money to buy a new TV samsung or panasonic or...

    If Philips does not solve the problem, I returned the TV and immediately exchanged it for another tv.
    Just Ambilight prevents me to keep this tv.
    Also a friend works in the shop with electronic devices ("Big Bang" googel it)...and each potencial buyer is warned about this problem.......
    karma

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    I have a new, rather disturbing problem. When the tv is in standby it does not respond to my Philips remote control. I have to wait for 1+ minute and then (sometimes, not always) the tv suddenly responds... Another workaround is to unplug the tv from the mains.

    When the television is eventually switched on the Philips remote control works correctly.

    Furthermore, other remote controls (using I/R) work fine.

    Model type: 42PFL6877H

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    @tkvc : please add some other keywords in title of your video. Such as "Philips", "8007", or else to make your video easier to be found (and not only by me because I had time to see that you posted before it got deleted). Also add keywords (same and others) to your video.

    Are you speaking french ? (most probably due to your user name)
    are you going to the forum http://www.homecinema-fr.com ? There's free discussions there !

    @sejmon : in my country the return process is not as simple... It mainly depends if vendor is nice (if not they rely on Philips recognition of the problem and official return process).
    So far I'd like to have some feedback from Philips. If this HDNM gets fixed, then I'm okay with this TV. But I do have some doubts we'll get anything.

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    more tags added.

    I'm not a Frenchman, i'm Austrian in fact. Won't be a good user in this french forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvkc View Post
    more tags added.

    I'm not a Frenchman, i'm Austrian in fact. Won't be a good user in this french forum
    Ok, I was wrong.
    TvKc could mean "broken TV". In french "cassé" is broken, and can be written "kc" for short.

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    This is graet stuff! TV cassé - well combined, but wrong
    No, in fact I like my 8007, I just hate the PNM behavior. So my TV n'est pas cassé.

    No, the abbrevation means something completely different, but your theory made me smile!

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    hi i want to know if there good news about the failures that have been occurring since the origins of the tv. everyone does nothing but complain about the fast moving images that are blurry and slightly sharp in both 2D and especially 3D. All these images are in full hd, sd ... know when you solve? have led to the origin of the problem? I just want official news of all that is happening. actually be spent over 1000 euros on a tv and having these faults is very very painful. I just want to be compressible and compensate him with something to users (solution) greetings and thanks for the inconvience. Have a nice day

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