Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 21 of 21
  • Topic Tools
  • Display
  • Bookmark and Share
  1. #16
    New Member
    Points: 1,095, Level: 8
    Level completed: 73%, Points required for next Level: 55
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered1000 Experience PointsNew Achievement!

    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Israel
    Posts
    7
    Points
    1,095
    Level
    8
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladium View Post
    Theoreticly: yes!
    Is there anyone out there with this configuration (all Philips devices or a mix of brands) who can confirm multi-channel sound is passed trough?
    Hmm, i just bought a Panasonic HTS sc-pt580 with HDMI ARC.

    I should get it in a few days.

    The problem is that this Panasonic has only toslink optical input, so if the ARC won't work i will be fu**** really hard

  2. #17
    Silver Member
    Points: 2,098, Level: 12
    Level completed: 83%, Points required for next Level: 52
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered1000 Experience PointsNew Achievement!

    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    71
    Points
    2,098
    Level
    12
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    4
    Does anybody know if there's an official statement from Philips regarding cause and solution of this problem?

    Is there any statement about other HDMI related problems?

  3. #18
    Gold Member
    Points: 1,885, Level: 12
    Level completed: 12%, Points required for next Level: 265
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered1000 Experience PointsNew Achievement!

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    276
    Points
    1,885
    Level
    12
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    4
    Sorry to disappoint you but there is neither a "Problem" or a "Solution".
    If you have an external Device connected to the TV the connected Device will look up what the TV can and does not can.
    In this Case, as the TV does not have a build in DTS Encoder, the for instance a Blu Ray Player will detect the Missing DTS encoder and will Downmix the Audio to fit the TV specifications, means, Stereo.

    Also

    even if you got a Device with Build in DTS Decoder, this one should also downmix the Audio and do not give it forward untouched, because of the Copyright Protection within HDMI.
    Only certified A/V Receivers will have the capability to split the Audio and Videosignal, so they can give out Audio as youd expect and forward the Video untouched.
    But this goes only for certefied Devices.

    So the only "Solution" in this Case is an certified A/V Receiver.

  4. #19
    Silver Member
    Points: 2,098, Level: 12
    Level completed: 83%, Points required for next Level: 52
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered1000 Experience PointsNew Achievement!

    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    71
    Points
    2,098
    Level
    12
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    4
    @ a-tom: I don't agree, and/or I don't fully understand.
    Let's see :
    - DVB-C > CI+ > TV > HDMI1 (ARC) > YSP4100 (ARC) passes through DD and DTS according to input-indicator on YSP.
    - BDP8000 > YSP4100 (HDMI in) passes over DD and DTS.
    - BDP8000 > TV (HDMI in) > YSP4100 (HDMI ARC) does not pass through DD or DTS.
    Surely you agree the above indicates the problem is within the TV.

  5. #20
    Gold Member
    Points: 1,885, Level: 12
    Level completed: 12%, Points required for next Level: 265
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered1000 Experience PointsNew Achievement!

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    276
    Points
    1,885
    Level
    12
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    4
    o_O

    - DVB-C > CI+ > TV > HDMI1 (ARC) > YSP4100 (ARC) passes through DD and DTS according to input-indicator on YSP.
    okay
    again
    you can have DTS or DD untouched on a HTS or whatever via HDMi ARC from the TV IF:
    the sound comes from an internal TV Source like the DVB-C/T/S Tuner or as also available on some TVs from internal Blu Ray Players or DVD Players.
    BUT!
    if you have an external Player like the BDP8000 this doesnt work.
    in this special case because the BDP8000 detects that the TV does not have a DTS Decoder and downmixes the Sound.

    - BDP8000 > YSP4100 (HDMI in) passes over DD and DTS.
    sure it does because the YSP is build to play the Soundand you dont have some other Device in the middle

    BDP8000 > TV (HDMI in) > YSP4100 (HDMI ARC) does not pass through DD or DTS
    yes, like i wrote above, the BDP detects that the TV (first connected Device in Line) does not have a DTS decoder, to fit the TV specifications, the BDP will downmix.

    NOTE
    even if you have a TV which has a DTS Decoder inside, this TV will have to downmix the Sound also as this is forced by the HDMI conent Protection System build into HDMI.

  6. #21
    Silver Member
    Points: 2,098, Level: 12
    Level completed: 83%, Points required for next Level: 52
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered1000 Experience PointsNew Achievement!

    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    71
    Points
    2,098
    Level
    12
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    4
    @ a_Tom : Appreciate your input and thanks for that, but this is getting far to technical for me. I guess you are right about the ins and outs of this technology.

    Still an official statement from Philips would be more than welcome

    P.s. Am I correct when assuming that over here ( http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...S-pass-through , post #2 ) Philips states Dolby Digital is passed through over HDMI while DTS is no longer supported in the 2010 9705 series.
    Last edited by Paladium; 09-07-2011 at 02:18 PM.

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •