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08-16-2011, 12:16 PM #16New Member
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Does anybody know if there's an official statement from Philips regarding cause and solution of this problem?
Is there any statement about other HDMI related problems?
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09-07-2011, 10:21 AM #18Gold Member
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Sorry to disappoint you but there is neither a "Problem" or a "Solution".
If you have an external Device connected to the TV the connected Device will look up what the TV can and does not can.
In this Case, as the TV does not have a build in DTS Encoder, the for instance a Blu Ray Player will detect the Missing DTS encoder and will Downmix the Audio to fit the TV specifications, means, Stereo.
Also
even if you got a Device with Build in DTS Decoder, this one should also downmix the Audio and do not give it forward untouched, because of the Copyright Protection within HDMI.
Only certified A/V Receivers will have the capability to split the Audio and Videosignal, so they can give out Audio as youd expect and forward the Video untouched.
But this goes only for certefied Devices.
So the only "Solution" in this Case is an certified A/V Receiver.
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09-07-2011, 11:02 AM #19Silver Member
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@ a-tom: I don't agree, and/or I don't fully understand.
Let's see :
- DVB-C > CI+ > TV > HDMI1 (ARC) > YSP4100 (ARC) passes through DD and DTS according to input-indicator on YSP.
- BDP8000 > YSP4100 (HDMI in) passes over DD and DTS.
- BDP8000 > TV (HDMI in) > YSP4100 (HDMI ARC) does not pass through DD or DTS.
Surely you agree the above indicates the problem is within the TV.
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09-07-2011, 11:22 AM #20Gold Member
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o_O
okay- DVB-C > CI+ > TV > HDMI1 (ARC) > YSP4100 (ARC) passes through DD and DTS according to input-indicator on YSP.
again
you can have DTS or DD untouched on a HTS or whatever via HDMi ARC from the TV IF:
the sound comes from an internal TV Source like the DVB-C/T/S Tuner or as also available on some TVs from internal Blu Ray Players or DVD Players.
BUT!
if you have an external Player like the BDP8000 this doesnt work.
in this special case because the BDP8000 detects that the TV does not have a DTS Decoder and downmixes the Sound.
sure it does because the YSP is build to play the Soundand you dont have some other Device in the middle- BDP8000 > YSP4100 (HDMI in) passes over DD and DTS.
yes, like i wrote above, the BDP detects that the TV (first connected Device in Line) does not have a DTS decoder, to fit the TV specifications, the BDP will downmix.BDP8000 > TV (HDMI in) > YSP4100 (HDMI ARC) does not pass through DD or DTS
NOTE
even if you have a TV which has a DTS Decoder inside, this TV will have to downmix the Sound also as this is forced by the HDMI conent Protection System build into HDMI.
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@ a_Tom : Appreciate your input and thanks for that, but this is getting far to technical for me. I guess you are right about the ins and outs of this technology.
Still an official statement from Philips would be more than welcome
P.s. Am I correct when assuming that over here ( http://www.supportforum.philips.com/...S-pass-through , post #2 ) Philips states Dolby Digital is passed through over HDMI while DTS is no longer supported in the 2010 9705 series.Last edited by Paladium; 09-07-2011 at 02:18 PM.



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